Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Healdplace]

That’s strange

the consensus i’d seen was that the increased gap for pfizer and AZ had made them more effective

and that AZ got better the further you got out from 2nd dose

that said the 570 people is back of fag packet stuff, always take them with a pinch of salt after that South Africa AZBeta study probably set them back 6 months and turned out to be BS

I had seen that data previously too which is why I was so surprised by the tone of that article.

Though why I should be given how dreadful our media have been in this crisis I do not know,.

They are seeming to regard Covid as the story of the century and all about the importance of the press to tell us the truth. By which they mean the truth that they are instructed by their owners to tell us. Which occasionally means the same thing as we might expect it to do but not as often as it should.

 

[shemnel]

That’s strange

the consensus i’d seen was that the increased gap for pfizer and AZ had made them more effective

and that AZ got better the further you got out from 2nd dose

that said the 570 people is back of fag packet stuff, always take them with a pinch of salt after that South Africa AZBeta study probably set them back 6 months and turned out to be BS

this is after full vax, not gap between jabs

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

The one I just had to write 10,000 new words for and revise the rest took me a long hard slog working to 3 am many nights after posting late in here.

But most of that was writing it via Pdf which I had never done before. I started off like Jessica Fletcher on a typewriter with my first one many moons ago but by 25 years ago was writing them on a laptop by the pool in Florida.

Science is amazing in how fast it can make life easier.

But the older you get the harder it is to adjust to the new.

My point is I know what writing a book involves and would never assume they are all done the same way or to the same speed. Some just have to be done fast. Others can take years.

I suspect the last part of Game of Thrones might appear - eventually. But it has taken a very long time from someone with all the money in the world to make it easy. Because - reasons.

That is impressive. You're a glutton for punishment.

I have no desire to write a book and respect anyone who tries. With an engineering background I have reasonble physics and mathematics eduction but no medical or biological knowledge. So I trust the medical experts and almost abhor those who critise things they don't understand.

 

[Healdplace]

ZOE DATA (YESTERDAY)

THEY ARE EITHER VERY RIGHT OR VERY WRONG BUT THE OPPOSITE OF GOV UK IN NUMBERS TERMS BUT NOT RELATIVE UPS AND DOWNS

Three regions now in the darkest red - very high - zone.

1st LONDON UP from 1160/1401 TO 1209/1452

2nd NE & YORKS UP from 1006/1404 TO 1010/1409

3rd NORTH WEST UP from 849/1130 TO 873/1153

All the other regions BAR two are in the next dark red - including Northern Ireland o 428/1706 and Midlands on 729 / 1021 - both up MORE in the day than North West so on course to overtake.

The other two - Wales and Scotland - are in the lightest watch zone - pink - on their own. With Scotland the best and not rising as Wales is.

Wales UP from 379 / 690 to 418 / 741

And Scotland on 436 / 699.


Zoe also shows Greater Manchester as worse thn most of the NW right now.

With Stockport and Tameside the two worst regions. Now above Liverpool that WAS until yesterday. Cannot recall Stockport as worst in NW before. But in the real figures yesterday as I posted in the data it WAS the only GM borough not to reduce its Pop Score. Though it stood still rather than rise.

GM BOROUGHS: 2 DAYS AGO / YESTERDAY

BOLTON DOWN 10 889 TO 9613

BURY DOWN 11 248 TO 9120

MANCHESTER UP 13, 921 TO 16 002

OLDHAM UP 15 830 TO 16 074

ROCHDALE DOWN ROCHDALE 10 829 TO 5210

SALFORD UP 14 988 TO 15 687

STOCKPORT UP 14 708 TO 17 856

TAMESIDE UP 5016 TO 17 975

TRAFFORD DOWN 9477 TO 9283

WIGAN DOWN 14 286 TO 13 296


Will Post Today's later when available

 

[Healdplace]

WALES DATA

THE WK TO WK DAILY FALLS GO ON

1 death - was 2 last week

755 cases - was 1083 last week

5.7% positivity - was 6.7% last week - SO NOT FEWER TESTS RELATED

107 patients - up 6 - was 81 last week

26 ventilated - up 1 - was 9 last week

So the hospital data is rising fast - FROM the cases a week or so back when they were escalating,

Hopefully this week means they will drop next week.

ZOE IS 1 - 0 UP SO FAR TODAY IN SAYING WALES IS LOWEST IN UK WITH SCOTLAND

 

[Healdplace]

That is impressive. You're a glutton for punishment.

I have no desire to write a book and respect anyone who tries. With an engineering background I have reasonble physics and mathematics eduction but no medical or biological knowledge. So I trust the medical experts and almost abhor those who criticise things they don't understand.

Not really I was under a contract so duty bound to do this when asked.

And the money helps too, of course when you are on a state pension. As I had more or less retired in recent years because I was a full time carer.

I have written a few books over many years and it gets easier after that many. The first one that made it to the shops I started when I was 23 and finished when I was 27. So they are not always that fast.

As I said yesterday how fast anyone writes a book depends on circumstances - as with the ones I wrote tied into a weekly TV series that HAD to be written fast - as in weeks - to be in the shops when the TV show aired its last episode of the series. I had to work from the raw footage of the shoots before it was edited and then edit afterwards if the actual on screen edits changed anything major.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

That’s strange

the consensus i’d seen was that the increased gap for pfizer and AZ had made them more effective

and that AZ got better the further you got out from 2nd dose

that said the 570 people is back of fag packet stuff, always take them with a pinch of salt after that South Africa AZBeta study probably set them back 6 months and turned out to be BS

Very good article today in the Guardian about the optimum time lapse between jabs for maximum efficacy albeit focused on Pfizer from a very recent study.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...weet-spot-after-eight-weeks-uk-scientists-say

 

[Healdplace]

LATEST ONS DATA ON COVID PREVALENCE IN UK

EVERYWHERE UP AGAIN

Scotland and England showing plateau signs here though too. Scotland the most.

Week ending 17 July v week ending 10 July


England THIS WEEK1 in 75 (last wk 1 in 95)

Northern Ireland THIS WEEK 1 in 170 (last wk 1 in 290)

Scotland THIS WEEK 1 in 80 (last wk 1 in 90)

Wales THIS WEEK 1 in 210 (last wk 1 in 360)

 

[Healdplace]

Btw seen people on line claiming the fall this week is artificial as these ONS numbers are going up.

EXCEPT they only go up to 6 days ago so any recent fall unlikely to be seen clearly until next weeks data

And they add that positivity is still rising so it is an illusion.

It might be that as England is rising as fewer overall tests seem to be happening but the data is a mess to work out positivity levels that they rarely mention.

BUT the Scotland and Wales falls this week ARE showing positivity rate falls. So they at least are not being caused by fewer cases.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I know this is a couple of days ago but there are some good follow on updates with some local level graphs on the thread.