Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Grumpyman]

You can still spread it to others even if you don't have symptoms. The tests aren't great either. My brother had COVID and 4 of his 5 LFT's were negative even after testing positive on the PCR.

It comes down to whether we're bothered about protecting the vulnerable or not. If we are, then it makes sense to isolate if someone in your house has covid. If we're not, then everyone should crack on.

But just because you live with someone that tests positive doesn't automatically mean another person in the household will catch it. It's stupid.
Should be daily testing for Omicron the same as Delta.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

She is about to put us into lockdown and is only awaiting the funding from central government to do so.

At least it’s got a history of working…..

 

[Octavian]

At least it’s got a history of working…..

It has as a temporary fix but comes with other deep societal, health and economic issues. Imo should only be done if the trends are evident the NHS won’t cope with inbound cases.

 

[BlueAnorak]

OK picture looking clearer - twice as infectious (minimum) with a doubling time of around 3 days in the UK (as opposed to 11 with Delta)
Now this doubling time may be due to a number of super-spreader events so it could be a lot lower.
Covid passports are a waste of time. One person infects over half the attendees (Norway party, Steps concert etc.)

At least a 1/3 as severe (worst case could be a lot better as initial hospitalisations in SA look like they were immune compromised) in terms of hospitalisation and 1/9 as severe in terms of ICU and deaths - very little lower respitory tract infections.

That looks like good news?

Though someone will be along shortly to show a screenshot of someone on Twitter saying we’re all going to die before Christmas.

Neil Fergusson who says we will be swamped if
Omicron is as severe as Delta. Guess what Neil? It isn't.

 

[BlueAnorak]

What are the symptoms of Omicron?

This sounds hugely positive.

Headache, stuffed up feeling slight sore throat.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Neil Fergusson who says we will be swamped if
Omicron is as severe as Delta. Guess what Neil? It isn't.

And mutations continue.

Omicron has numerous mutations to the spike protean- the part of the genome largely responsible for infection. Who knows what the next mutation to Omicron - the most prevalent strain and thus most likely to mutate - will bring?

 

[super_city_si]

Headache, stuffed up feeling slight sore throat.

Sounds more like the common coronaviruses. Good development if true.

 

[BlueAnorak]

where's that from?

SA numbers and cases in Scotland and Norway

 

[Gabriel]

Neil Fergusson who says we will be swamped if
Omicron is as severe as Delta. Guess what Neil? It isn't.

He actually says a lot more than that and admits that things may be more positive.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/10/omicron-could-overwhelm-nhs-if-virulent-as-delta-neil-ferguson-says?

None of us can tell yet quite how severe it will be in the U.K., but Sturgeon has obviously been briefed that it’s closer to doubling every 2 days, so people won’t have long to wait to find out.

 

[BlueAnorak]

And mutations continue.

Omicron has numerous mutations to the spike protean- the part of the genome largely responsible for infection. Who knows what the next mutation to Omicron - the most prevalent strain and thus most likely to mutate - will bring?

The trend will be much more likely to be as infectious (you can't get much higher) and less severe.