Coronavirus (2021) thread

[twosips]

Guess this is going mainstream now. Fuck me I really really hope it's wrong and all is well. Either way, the cynic in me would not be surprised at all that even with a golden ticket out of this we'd still find a way to inexplicably get it wrong. Thankfully it's come to light early enough to sort it one way or another. I don't have any doubts that we'll be looking intensely at this.

 

[M18CTID]

I’ve just had my flu jab for the first time, seeing as recently turned 50 and got my letter last week, wasn’t sure whether I’d have it until reading advice on here that it supposedly assists somewhat if you get covid.

My thanks to Bluemoon’s health experts.

It’s a good move. Nothing to lose and all that. I’m 50 and had my first flu jab over Christmas. I wasn’t aware that it may be effective in tackling Covid but now I’ve tested positive I’m hoping it helps see it off. It’s now 2 days since my symptoms started and so far it’s just been flu-like with a touch of the trots thrown in yesterday afternoon. Hoping this is as bad as it gets

 

[ayrshire_blue]

ANyone else see Newsnight? I watched Newsnight tonight and at the end there was a researcher from Bath who said that it appears that the 1st vaccine bestows up to 30% immunity which is much less than hoped. That was not a mis-type. Alarming. Presumably a 2nd jab would make it good? COuld be rogue research / information but it was on newsnight.

The UK doing something different from the rest of the world, only getting it spectacularly wrong to the health impact of millions and enormous financial detriment? Sounds about right.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Guess this is going mainstream now. Fuck me I really really hope it's wrong and all is well. Either way, the cynic in me would not be surprised at all that even with a golden ticket out of this we'd still find a way to inexplicably get it wrong. Thankfully it's come to light early enough to sort it one way or another. I don't have any doubts that we'll be looking intensely at this.

Don't know if these findings are properly set in stone but to mess about with the process over here without doing tests is up there with the worst things BJ and his mates have done.

 

[Rammy Blue]

It’s a good move. Nothing to lose and all that. I’m 50 and had my first flu jab over Christmas. I wasn’t aware that it may be effective in tackling Covid but now I’ve tested positive I’m hoping it helps see it off. It’s now 2 days since my symptoms started and so far it’s just been flu-like with a touch of the trots thrown in yesterday afternoon. Hoping this is as bad as it gets

Fingers crossed mate, I’m sure we can’t use you as our only sample set, lol, but would certainly instil an element of confidence in me. Hope you stay well.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Woke up this morning with no sense of taste/smell. Also have an ache in my legs. Beechams have helped the most so far!

Get well soon mate.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I was wondering why yesterday we vaccinated about two thirds of the people we did a few days ago. The government appear to be blaming it on supply but AZ stated that the government have told them not to declare how much vaccine they are suppling weekly due to national security reasons. Sounds very fishy to me, possibly more like the government dont want any blame for a slower roll out?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Guess this is going mainstream now. Fuck me I really really hope it's wrong and all is well. Either way, the cynic in me would not be surprised at all that even with a golden ticket out of this we'd still find a way to inexplicably get it wrong. Thankfully it's come to light early enough to sort it one way or another. I don't have any doubts that we'll be looking intensely at this.

It depends what the stats actually mean. The link has no data or research other than "30%".

The Pfizer trial showed *average* efficacy over the first three weeks before dose 2 to be ~50%.

But, the efficacy was zero at the very start; by three weeks in there was very substantial efficacy. Impossible to quantify with small numbers, and averaged across the age range.

So if average efficacy, in the most elderly and vulnerable only, across the three weeks before dose 2, is 30%, that's neither a big surprise nor necessarily a problem for the uk strategy. And it tells us nothing about protection against severe disease which is what's most important.

Wait and see.

The important thing is that we should not open up until we're really sure of what's happening here, and that case numbers here are low. Resist the political pressure to ease restrictions at all costs.

 

[blueparrot]

Guess this is going mainstream now. Fuck me I really really hope it's wrong and all is well. Either way, the cynic in me would not be surprised at all that even with a golden ticket out of this we'd still find a way to inexplicably get it wrong. Thankfully it's come to light early enough to sort it one way or another. I don't have any doubts that we'll be looking intensely at this.

If it did require a u turn though it would only involve Pfizer, and as we are only 4 weeks in it could probably be done fairly easily and quickly.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

On Pfizer efficacy to three weeks.