Coronavirus (2021) thread

[mosssideblue]

Science for dummies question, but why would it be different for AZ than Pfizer?

Am I right in suggesting the 12 week gap has been fully trialled and proven to work best with AZ?

I'd like to add another question to this. How do they check someone's immunity post vaccination?

 

[Blu3m00n91]

The irony from these clowns is laughable

 

[hammocity]

If they can’t wear a mask why can’t they wear a visor, no excuse

I agree, I know they are not as effective but it shows they are making an effort. As regards medication proof most people with an illness or a condition that requires continuous medication will have a NHS prescription exempt card, they should be made to show that.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Thanks as always. So I suppose in theory, what's good for one *should* be good for the other, and vice versa.

Sorry, just don't know personally know enough to say one way or the other.

Certainly seems to be the view of our medical establishment though.

 

[Healdplace]

Wales data:

44 deaths - was 66 last week

1283 cases - was 1533 last week

At 12,5 % positivity

Weekly Pop down again from 295 yesterday to 285 today

 

[unicorn]

Look at the insert. You can see how cases in the active (red) and placebo (blue) change over the three weeks post dose one.

Efficacy = (difference between blue and red lines)/(height of blue line)

The average efficacy isn't so far from 30% at 21 days when dose 2 happens. But you can see how the lines have separated, and forward efficacy could be expected to be much better.

And this is for the average population in the Pfizer trial; the population vaccinated initially In Israel will be much more vulnerable and potentially have a weaker response to vaccine.

That's a really clear and reassuring post - many thanks RT.

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland update:

Less good news on deaths and hospital data

92 deaths - was 79 last week - one of the highest single day numbers ever

1656 cases - was 1949 last week

At 7.5% positivity - which is good - it was 10.2% last week

But 2003 now in hospital - up 14 and first time ever above 2000.

And 156 on ventilators - up 6

 

[kaz7]

Wondering if anyone can help, the Mrs has a positive test and I've ordered a home test now. But as we're both self isolating how do I post it? I can't find anything about couriers who pick up tests?

Did you order it on the gov website ? They should tell you about returning it , you book the courier on the site and they collect the same day , you do the test right before they are coming to collect it , go back and have a look

when you get the test read it all and it should tell you how to book the courier

unless this has been changed since i did one

 

[Healdplace]

Nicola Sturgeon just claimed the reason England are now doing fewer daily new vaccinations is that they have belatedly decided to do what Scotland has done from day one. Treat care homes as a priority.

Scotland are now well over 90% covered. And so now outside care home daily vaccinations in Scotland will noticably accelerate whilst England's may fall.

England have - she says - now decided this is important to do too.

All the deaths yesterday in England out of hospital (many in care homes) show Scotland got this right and England did not. A very unusually high number of those England deaths were not in hospital creating that unexpectedly high total of 1610 when just half of them were in England hospitals.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

Nicola Sturgeon just claimed the reason England are now doing fewer daily new vaccinations is that they have belatedly decided to do what Scotland has done from day one. Treat care homes as a priority.

Scotland are now well over 90% covered.

England have - she says - now decided this is important to do too.

All the deaths yesterday in England out of hospital (many in care homes) show Scotland got this right and England did not. A very unusually high number of those England deaths were not in hospital creating that shock total.

There’s no reason why care homes can’t be done in conjunction with the other cohorts. A team of three people comprising of a doctor, a nurse and an administrator did all 2000 care home residents in over 50 care homes in just over a week in Newcastle.