Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Mike Cledford]

BBC said that info experience in Israel showed that tests there showed that just having the one jab brought effectiveness down to just 25%
I get my first jab next week but they will be giving me the second whilst millions have not had one all. So they will be doing first and seconds at the same time, an enormous job but l dont seem to have heard them even talk about this.
Has anyone else?

 

[Chippy_boy]

BBC said that info experience in Israel showed that tests there showed that just having the one jab brought effectiveness down to just 25%
I get my first jab next week but they will be giving me the second whilst millions have not had one all. So they will be doing first and seconds at the same time, an enormous job but l dont seem to have heard them even talk about this.
Has anyone else?

Difficult to believe that 25% number given the *extensive* testing these vaccines went through in the trials. Also,

"So there was understandable concern when the man coordinating Israel's Covid response reportedly suggested a single dose of the Pfizer vaccine might not be as effective as reported.
Thousands of people have tested positive after being jabbed. But are worries premature?

Addressing Prof Nachman Ash's quotes, the Israeli Ministry of Health said: "The comments of the Israeli Covid-19 commissioner regarding the effect of the first dose of the vaccine were out of context and, therefore, inaccurate.
"The commissioner said we have yet to see a decrease in the number of severely ill patients."
The "full protective impact of the vaccine" was expected to be seen soon, a spokesperson added."

Covid: Israel vaccine fears 'out of context and inaccurate'

Israel is likely to be the first country to see an impact from vaccination - but it is still too early.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Mike Cledford]

Difficult to believe that 25% number given the *extensive* testing these vaccines went through in the trials. Also,

"So there was understandable concern when the man coordinating Israel's Covid response reportedly suggested a single dose of the Pfizer vaccine might not be as effective as reported.
Thousands of people have tested positive after being jabbed. But are worries premature?

Addressing Prof Nachman Ash's quotes, the Israeli Ministry of Health said: "The comments of the Israeli Covid-19 commissioner regarding the effect of the first dose of the vaccine were out of context and, therefore, inaccurate.
"The commissioner said we have yet to see a decrease in the number of severely ill patients."
The "full protective impact of the vaccine" was expected to be seen soon, a spokesperson added."

Covid: Israel vaccine fears 'out of context and inaccurate'

Israel is likely to be the first country to see an impact from vaccination - but it is still too early.

www.bbc.co.uk

Thanks. I will wait and see how it all pans out. Fed up of lockdown but happy to comply with it and wait for second jab

 

[roubaixtuesday]

BBC said that info experience in Israel showed that tests there showed that just having the one jab brought effectiveness down to just 25%
I get my first jab next week but they will be giving me the second whilst millions have not had one all. So they will be doing first and seconds at the same time, an enormous job but l dont seem to have heard them even talk about this.
Has anyone else?

I tried to explain the background behind this earlier.

Short version: too early to tell, but nothing to worry about so far.

Coronavirus (2021) thread

Guess this is going mainstream now. Fuck me I really really hope it's wrong and all is well. Either way, the cynic in me would not be surprised at all that even with a golden ticket out of this we'd still find a way to inexplicably get it wrong. Thankfully it's come to light early enough to sort...

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[AlgarveBlu]

Still *very* early days, and there have been many conflicting reports, but if this carries on then it looks great. I hope it's right.

And another update related to the above collaboration between Israel/PFZ data feedback which if replicated globally will be vital for the battle of retaining doctors and nurses on the front line

 

[Healdplace]

I struggle to believe this 17% is correct. If so there must be millions of people per day infected, recently weve been processing on average 600k tests a day say at least 75% of them are suffering symptoms then in reality there are 2.6 million people in the UK suffering symptoms every day, absolute bollocks

Of the 630,000 tests yesterday only 6% were positive. That is under 40,000 a day.

 

[Healdplace]

Another one for the pessimists. The latest James Bond film has been given another release date. October! I take it that means they aren't expecting people to be allowed back into Cinemas in large numbers this summer then.

They are taking a global view when marketing a movie not deciding it based on whether the Rialto in Scunthorpe will be open.

There is ZERO chance most of the world will be opening cinemas by Spring. But some chance the majority might by October. I would not bet against next year though.

Or if we are really unlucky Daniel Craig attending the premiere in a bath chair.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Another one for the pessimists. The latest James Bond film has been given another release date. October! I take it that means they aren't expecting people to be allowed back into Cinemas in large numbers this summer then.

They need to do what Warner are and release on TV for a nominal fee, a lot of cinemas have closed and I doubt will ever re open, Im used to not going now, I just wish theyd release Top Gun 2

 

[domalino]

They are taking a global view when marketing a movie not deciding it based on whether the Rialto in Scunthorpe will be open.

There is ZERO chance most of the world will be opening cinemas by Spring. But some chance the majority might by October. I would not bet against next year though.

Or if we are really unlucky Daniel Craig attending the premiere in a bath chair.

Even in the UK, they had a choice between opening in April with Cinemas at 1/4 capacity in something similar to Tier 1 or 2....or October at 100% capacity.

 

[Healdplace]

BBC said that info experience in Israel showed that tests there showed that just having the one jab brought effectiveness down to just 25%
I get my first jab next week but they will be giving me the second whilst millions have not had one all. So they will be doing first and seconds at the same time, an enormous job but l dont seem to have heard them even talk about this.
Has anyone else?

They are doing first and second jabs at once now and have been since early January. Both numbers are posted in here every day.

They are also constantly increasing the number of places where they are available, getting more and more vaccines on stream and by the time this becomes a real issue in April, will have the capacity to do as many first jabs as now plus the same number of second jabs.

The primary aim is to give everyone vulnerable and over the age of 70 both jabs by April which is achievable.

You do that and eliminate 90% of the risk of serious illness and death.

That is the trade off here and obviously the right one even if it means some of the younger age groups only get a first dose by mid Summer. Though it is quite possible they could do both for all who want one by end of June given all going well. Even one dose to the younger is likely enough to prevent most being very ill from this.

I criticise the government a lit if warranted but so far they are getting the vaccine roll out right when plenty of other nations are not.

So far are the key words though.