Coronavirus (2021) thread

[west didsblue]

That doesn’t say vaccinated and given birth does it like I said, you know, the bit I said about defects and Thalidomide… It looks like it’s you who can’t read what I’m saying and have stuck me on ignore because you knew I was going to reply with this. Bye.

Oh I was fully aware of the trials too and know exactly how they work and read the published, yet to be peer review info that came out in November.

Nope it doesn't specifically say given birth but it does reference the birth week. Wonder what happened that week?

 

[Elbow beards]

Ooh I do like a good old bm slagathon midweek.

Rag :)

 

[Healdplace]

ENGLAND HOSPITAL DEATHS

25 with 4 from the North West

Was 29 with 10 NW last week and 13 with 3 NW week before and 11 with 6 week before that

That looks as good as we could hope for given the rising cases.


1 was aged 20 - 39, 3 aged 40 - 59, 11 aged 60 - 79 and 10 aged 80 PLUS

Regionally:

East 1, London 3, Midlands 6 NE & Yorkshire 6, North West 4, South East 3, South West 2

The NW deaths were 2 in Manchester, 1 in Stockport and 1 in Wigan.

 

[Bluemoonadam]

I've just tested positive I feel okay though.

 

[west didsblue]

Yep. AB is the worst followed by A

I wonder if that is borne out by those on here that have caught delta while double jabbed?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I've just tested positive I feel okay though.

Good luck mate.

 

[Healdplace]

ENGLAND HOSPITAL DEATHS BY DATE

13 Jul added 5 after 1 day (last week - 6 Jul - was 3)

12 Jul added 10 = 12 after 2 days (last week - 5 Jul - added 9 = 12)

11 Jul added 1 = 15 after 3 days (last week - 4 Jul - added 7 = 13)

10 Jul added 5 = 18 after 4 days (last week - 3 Jul - added 4 = 15)

9 Jul added 3 = 24 after 5 day (last week - 2 Jul - added 6 = 22)

THESE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP BUT NOT AS YET DRAMATICALLY AS YOU CAN SEE.

24 as the five day total for 9 July is the highest 5 day total since 25 on 12 April.

But they will escalate further as deaths lag cases by 2 or 3 weeks and cases in the other regions have only started to escalate and we are seeing the early phase of the death uptick outside the NW here Not the middle or the end.

 

[03 March 2002]

Yeah, I’ll read what the FDA say about it for a start if it gets full approval, rather than some low IQ having people on the internet who can sort of read and know Dave in the warehouse who reads the Star.

I'm not sure why you put more stock in what the FDA will say.

Spoiler: they won't say anything, they'll just make a generic statement about the authorisation status.

 

[Gabriel]

New cases in the Netherlands up to 10,492 today, with 14.3% of tests positive, and the R number at 2.17.

Public opinion now overwhelmingly condemnatory of the government decision to open without reservation, a decision that public opinion had been overwhelmingly in favour of beforehand...

 

[bluesteel]

Nope it doesn't specifically say given birth but it does reference the birth week. Wonder what happened that week?

Nobody has conceived a child and given birth since mass vaccinations started. What are you talking about?

There are probably 5-10 women based in each trial of 30-40k people for the US pharma companies.

I got to that number from 353k births a day x 280 gestation period and divided that by 8billion people (rounded up world population). It’s 0.018% of the worlds population is pregnant at any one time. So in a trial of 30000 people 5.4 women would have been pregnant over a 280 period (which is also longer than the trial!)

That’s about 17 max across the whole of the trial that has been emergency approved. So at the start of the year they’ve mass vaccinated and none of those women who have had the vaccine have then conceived and given birth (unless they’re severely premature and probably dead) and the “experts” are saying it’s safe, what Mr blocky meant was that the analysis of women who are currently pregnant looks to be similar in the stats he posted.

What I’m saying is I’ll wait and see before listening to unquantifiable predictions on the effect of a vaccine on a fetus amongst many other things.

I work on trust, they 100% cannot say this is safe for pregnant women, but they are. If they will point blank lie /mislead about that, they’ll point blank lie about other things.

Really hope there are no long term health risks with so many having taken it.

 

[artfuldodger]

New cases in the Netherlands up to 10,492 today, with 14.3% of tests positive, and the R number at 2.17.

Public opinion now overwhelmingly condemnatory of the government decision to open without reservation, a decision that public opinion had been overwhelmingly in favour of beforehand...

What are the hospitalisation and death rates like?

 

[splinter]

Nobody has conceived a child and given birth since mass vaccinations started. What are you talking about?

There are probably 5-10 women based in each trial of 30-40k people for the US pharma companies.

I got to that number from 353k births a day x 280 gestation period and divided that by 8billion people (rounded up world population). It’s 0.018% of the worlds population is pregnant at any one time. So in a trial of 30000 people 5.4 women would have been pregnant over a 280 period (which is also longer than the trial!)

That’s about 17 max across the whole of the trial that has been emergency approved. So at the start of the year they’ve mass vaccinated and none of those women who have had the vaccine have then conceived and given birth (unless they’re severely premature and probably dead) and the “experts” are saying it’s safe, what Mr blocky meant was that the analysis of women who are currently pregnant looks to be similar in the stats he posted.

What I’m saying is I’ll wait and see before listening to unquantifiable predictions on the effect of a vaccine on a fetus amongst many other things.

I work on trust, they 100% cannot say this is safe for pregnant women, but they are. If they will point blank lie /mislead about that, they’ll point blank lie about other things.

Really hope there are no long term health risks with so many having taken it.

Is that you Ian

 

[Rammy Blue]

I wonder if that is borne out by those on here that have caught delta while double jabbed?

No idea what blood group I am, is there an easy way to find out or is it ring the quacks?

 

[west didsblue]

No idea what blood group I am, is there an easy way to find out or is it ring the quacks?

Just checked the NHS App and it's not on there. The doctor's might know if you've ever had a blood test for anything. Or if you've ever given blood it'll be written on any documentation from them.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Just checked the NHS App and it's not on there. The doctor's might know if you've ever had a blood test for anything. Or if you've ever given blood it'll be written on any documentation from them.

I’d be a bit worried if my doctor’s didn’t know! I’ll ask them next time I have reason to call.

 

[Gabriel]

What are the hospitalisation and death rates like?

Hospitalizations and deaths are low, 33 and 1, respectively, but those will undoubtedly rise. There were only 3 hospitalizations on July 10th.

 

[west didsblue]

Nobody has conceived a child and given birth since mass vaccinations started. What are you talking about?

Neither would your missus if the baby's due in September, unless she's not human and is a species that has an 8 week pregnancy cycle.

 

[grunge]

Overlap of study phases for one. The vaccine still don’t even have FDA approval and is under emergency approval for those over 18 until those protocols are plugged.

Prior to this no mRNA vaccinations have been approved for human use, not sure why, I’ll wait thanks.

Not exactly a protocal override there tho is it. the phases were still done. at most the people in the next phases of trials may have been at a bit more risk, the end product has had the same level as trials as any other.

if its mRNA your worried about, AZ and JnJ are not mRNA and are both fully approved by the UK medical board. As has Pfizer and Moderna mind you which are mRNA ones.

Why is FDA approval more important than the UK medical boards?

 

[True_Blue69]

If you say so.

For everyone else as I don’t have time to reply individually, I’ll just leave this here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide

You can’t buy time.

Look, I saw all this coming a long before most, I even posted here (link below) back on 12th Feb 2020 how bad was going to be (I was vocal weeks before to my friends and family) I was called a “plank” then.

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/covid-19-—-coronavirus.344314/page-87#post-12434964

For most people vaccination is the probably correct course of action. But partly because I am the oldest or the same age in my social circles (family abroad), partly due to me already having covid with no symptoms, partly due to the lack of known side effects to due time cause by the speed of getting this out, I don’t consider it worth the risk to me or those around me.

I’d rather carry on isolating in my circles when I want to, stay away from the footy, bars and the office and keep sanitising.

Theoretically, if someone told me they had a time machine and no side effects would come from the vaccine, or that the vaccine will not cause future issues I’d take it tomorrow, but they can’t so I’m not. If things get worse for the unvaccinated I’ll reconsider but the numbers I’m seeing (in deaths per vaccinated be unvaccinated as a %) aren’t making me.

This long message because I responded to someone about being hesitant!

You should be quoting pandemrix rather than Thalidomide. Swine flu vaccine that has caused narcolepsy, not sure what the trials were but more relevant than Thalidomide.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

New cases in the Netherlands up to 10,492 today, with 14.3% of tests positive, and the R number at 2.17.

Public opinion now overwhelmingly condemnatory of the government decision to open without reservation, a decision that public opinion had been overwhelmingly in favour of beforehand...

gone up 500% hasn't it?