Coronavirus (2021) thread

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No vaccine should be no treatment for covid without private med insurance. I then bet few of these weirdos would decline the vaccine then.
I can see the attraction of that but it's a step too far imo. It could set a dangerous precedent for other things like potential refusal of treatment for smokers with lung cancer or fatties with heart problems or anything where it could be deemed personal choice got them into the situation that needs treatment. It's not what the NHS has ever been about.
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA IN PATIENTS BY REGION



Here are how the main regions moved LAST TUE V TODAY (UP/DOWN ON LAST WEEK AND SINCE YESTERDAY)


LONDON 1001 (Up 83) V 1084 (Down 73 Today)

MIDLANDS 966 (Down 41) V 925 (Down 21 Today)

NE & YORKSHIRE 1168 (Down 71) V 1097 (Down 49 Today)


And

NORTH WEST 897 (Down 34) V 863 (Down 25 Today)
 
ENGLAND VENTILATED NUMBERS


Last Tuesday - Yesterday - Today

738 - 791 - 780 (780 PATIENTS ON VENTILATORS IN ENGLAND HOSPITAL AS OF TODAY)

So down 11 in past 24 hours and Up 42 week to wee.

Last week Numbers rose from 544 to 738 in the week (UP 194) and from day to day to 748 (UP 10)


So a much lower increase in Ventilator patients wk to wk along with the fall in patients.


Here are how the main regions moved LAST TUE - YESTERDAY - TODAY


LONDON 179 - 204 - 198 Up 19 in week and down 6 today

MIDLANDS 134 - 145 - 148 Up 14 in week and Up 3 today

NE & YORKSHIRE 156 - 142 - 140 DOWN 16 in the week and 2 today.

NE & Yorks STILL falling here.



And

NORTH WEST 128 - 135 - 128 LEVEL in the week and DOWN 7 today.



North West the lowest of the 4 large regions and NE & Yorkshire falling now here too.
 
UK HOSPITAL NUMBERS

PATIENTS LAST WEEK V TODAY


ENGLAND 5163 v 5116

N IRELAND 243 v 224

SCOTLAND 472 v 406

WALES 145 v 159


TOTAL 6023 V 5905 (DOWN 118 week to week)


VENTILATED LAST WEEK V TODAY


ENGLAND 738 V 780

N IRELAND 23 V 26

SCOTLAND 63 V 61

WALES 27 V 21


TOTAL 851 V 888 (up 37 week to week)
 
Cases across the regions:


Change in last 24 hrs V seven days ago




SOUTH


East DOWN 240 to 1820 V 2004

London UP 259 to 2978 V 3217



London still the highest region in England going solo.




South East UP 387 to 2778 V 2666



South West DOWN 130 to 1939 V 2164


SOME RISES HERE AGAINST THE TREND OF THE FALL ELSEWHERE



MIDLANDS



East DOWN 87 to 1802 V 1707

West UP 34 to 1895 V 2047




This is about flat as you can get day to day and week to week


COMBINING THESE TWO INTO ONE AS THE NHS DOES TOTALS 3697 - STILL THE LARGEST REGION BUT THE GAP IS MUCH LOWER THAN IT WAS








NORTH



North East DOWN 80 to 829 V 1265 - Still falling and easily now the lowest region.

Hospital data is falling fast too here showing this drop is real.



Yorkshire UP 139 to 2463 V 2024


NE & YORKSHIRE as Zoe and the NHS combines these two for the hospital data and this is now the second biggest area with 3292 cases. Only just ahead of London. But behind the Midlands.





AND



NORTH WEST DOWN 186 to 2265 V 2683






Past weeks NW numbers are 2683 - 2999 - 3588 - 3373 - 3311 - 2939 - 2451 - 2265

Equivalent NW numbers a week earlier 5058 - 5322 - 5600 - 4172 - 3615 - 3464 - 3281 - 2683


Look at the week to weeks above:-


DOWN 2375 - DOWN 2323 - DOWN 2012 - DOWN 769 - DOWN 304 - DOWN 525 - DOWN 830 - DOWN 418





GM numbers in past week 1088 - 1251 - 1381 - 1331 - 1402 - 1160 - 906 - 901




Total in GM from the NW cases Total 39.8%. It was 36.7% yesterday and 40.5% a week ago.
 
Full GM details


Total cases 901 - DOWN 5 on Yesterday - The whole NW was DOWN by 186

Well under par but of a small number


Wk to wk DOWN 187 when the NW is DOWN by 418

Slightly under the expected fall here too. But only slightly.




BOROUGH / CASES TODAY / V YESTERDAY / V LAST WEEK



BOLTON 52 / DOWN 12 / DOWN 31

BURY 50 / DOWN 7 / DOWN 11

MANCHESTER 217 / UP 31 / DOWN 11

OLDHAM 114 / UP 19 / UP 9

ROCHDALE 68 / DOWN 9 / DOWN 6

SALFORD 96 / DOWN 7 / DOWN 8

STOCKPORT 97 / DOWN 26 / DOWN 8

TAMESIDE 53 / DOWN 9 / DOWN 26

TRAFFORD 80 / UP 19 / DOWN 6

WIGAN 74 / DOWN 4 / DOWN 48


EIGHT boroughs sub 100 for first time in a good while.

More modest week to week falls now as expected. But most down day to day and week to week

Oldham was the one with the only less than good numbers but like Stockport yesterday they were not much of a problem.
 
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Greater Manchester

Weekly total cases:-





Bury 523 , Bolton 559, Tameside 609, Rochdale 634, Trafford 643, Oldham 795, Wigan 803, Stockport 843, Salford 1046, Manchester 1883

The boroughs are all coming closer together and the bigger ones have the most cases.

Wigan - through the roof 2 or 3 weeks ago and one bad day for Stockport and another good one for Wigan and they push Stockport from best 5 weeks ago to the other end of the table - though some way behind the twin cities!
 
GM Weekly Pop Data after yesterday:~

Borough / Pop Today / 7 days ago / up or down wk to wk/ Testing is % of local population who have tested positive for Covid over past year.

As ever with Pop going up is bad, going down good - the higher the number the better or worse depending on direction moving. The Pop is total cases in past week versus 100,000 POPulation to even out the comparison versus size and expected cases based on numbers living there.




Salford 404 / 481 / DOWN 77 Testing positive 13.3%

Manchester 341 / 364 / DOWN 23 Testing positive 13.7%

Oldham 335 / 472 / DOWN 137 Testing positive 13.7%

Stockport 288 / 392 / DOWN 104 Testing positive 10.3 %

Rochdale 285 / 450 / DOWN 165 Testing positive 13.4%

Bury 274 / 368 / DOWN 94 Testing positive 12.6%

Tameside 269 / 437 / DOWN 168 Testing positive 11.5%

Trafford 268 / 383 / DOWN 115 Testing positive 10.4%

Wigan 245 / 436 / DOWN 191 Testing positive 12.9%

Bolton 194 / 329 / DOWN 135 Testing positive 13.3%


Salford still alone just over 400 but seven of the ten boroughs now under 300.

Oldham rose after a bit of a bump The rest down a bit.

Bolton now lowest it has been since early May and still falling, And today became the first GM borough to fall into the 100s again.

Few would have put money on a rampant Bolton being the first to do that 3 months ago.



Stockport up by 33 - on 10, 331 - better score. Trafford rose onto exactly the same - taking it up to 10, 417. So Stockport's lead for the best overall Pop Score across the pandemic stayed at 86.

Rochdale up 34 to 13, 401

But Bolton again was the lowest Pop Score in GM today - just 18 - to 13, 340.

The lowest GM score in some weeks and first below 20 in quite a while,

Bury up 26 to 12, 598.

Manchester up 39 to 13, 719

Oldham up 48 - the highest today - to 13, 714 which means Manchester still leads on the highest GM Pop Score title across the pandemic but now by only 5 ahead of Oldham!

Salford up 37 - to 13, 296 .

Tameside up 23 to 11, 473 joint second lowest Pop rise today

And Wigan also up 23 to 12, 878. alongside of it.
 
I can see the attraction of that but it's a step too far imo. It could set a dangerous precedent for other things like potential refusal of treatment for smokers with lung cancer or fatties with heart problems or anything where it could be deemed personal choice got them into the situation that needs treatment. It's not what the NHS has ever been about.
i see what you are saying, the subtle difference between those 'self inflicted' health problems and covid, is the fact that covid can and does infect others and delays others lives as you so rightly pointed out.
 
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