Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

[BamberBridgeBlue]

Hawkeye has been used in 9,000 matches. Until tonight it has never been wrong. Tonight when the keeper was clearly over the line holding the ball against the goal post, Hawkeye didn't give a goal, none of the officials did and VAR didn't intervene.

Perhaps you could explain how that happened.

You mistake my comment as someone disagreeing with you. I didn’t want football back.

Can I have a multiple choice? You can either explain....

A. The assassination of John F Kennedy.
B. The Jeffrey Epstein “suicide”.
C. The Sheffield United Goal that never was.

There are still people that are convinced there is no press agenda. Either in football or politics to the extent that they try to engineer and manipulate public opinion. You’re asking the wrong person to tow official line.

 

[Rascal]

So all you lot that wanted it to restart......having second thoughts ?

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In todays febrile political atmosphere, people will be firmly in one camp or the other and that position will only be entrenched after last night.

I am against it restarting, so I did some work I had pending and then watched Batman. I thought as KO got closer my interest would pique but it didn't, our whatsapp group was like a morgue, and instead of looking forward to football, I resented it being on. I don't feel resentment towards City or the players, its the PL and the TV companies I resent using our club as some sort of experiment to see if football without fans still attracts viewers. If it does, then with me being a cynical fucker it opens the opportunity for football without fans to become a regular fixture on the TV channels. Games sold to countries/corporations who can bid highest for them and football played in obscure places for the enjoyment of the few very wealthy individuals/companies who can then invite selective guests to a game. It will be corporate football on speed. Players and clubs could be like travelling circuses whoring themselves out across the globe.

As economist Milton Friedman said "only a crisis actual or perceived produces real change. When the crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depends on the ideas lying around "

The 19th game is one of those ideas, that now becomes a distinct possibility as football without fans has taken place, a barrier has been broken down and now real change can happen because there is precedent. Kick Off times, which were already verging on the ridiculous will now be at the mercy of the highest bidder looking to fill their TV schedules.

As a fan, going to the game has always been much much more than the actual game itself. I was talking to a mate last night and the match going ritual starts when you get up and ends when you hit the sack, the 90 minutes in between are when you sober up a bit and have a pie. When we were shit that's what we did, now we are good we still do it, but now I fear we do it no more.

I do genuinely hope that everyone who did watch it, enjoyed it and continue to do so, I will always love City, but last night football lost its magic for me. That magic is walking through the tunnel under the Kippax to watch a game under floodlights and seeing the crowd and the pitch as a young boy and thinking I was in heaven, there is no magic for me in a game on TV played in front of empty stands with piped in crowd noise. No magic at all.

 

[waspish]

Oliver one bent fucker he is either in deep with a betting firm in Asia or he is Riley’s go to for a result to help the rags out.

 

[Marvin]

In todays febrile political atmosphere, people will be firmly in one camp or the other and that position will only be entrenched after last night.

I am against it restarting, so I did some work I had pending and then watched Batman. I thought as KO got closer my interest would pique but it didn't, our whatsapp group was like a morgue, and instead of looking forward to football, I resented it being on. I don't feel resentment towards City or the players, its the PL and the TV companies I resent using our club as some sort of experiment to see if football without fans still attracts viewers. If it does, then with me being a cynical fucker it opens the opportunity for football without fans to become a regular fixture on the TV channels. Games sold to countries/corporations who can bid highest for them and football played in obscure places for the enjoyment of the few very wealthy individuals/companies who can then invite selective guests to a game. It will be corporate football on speed. Players and clubs could be like travelling circuses whoring themselves out across the globe.

As economist Milton Friedman said "only a crisis actual or perceived produces real change. When the crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depends on the ideas lying around "

The 19th game is one of those ideas, that now becomes a distinct possibility as football without fans has taken place, a barrier has been broken down and now real change can happen because there is precedent. Kick Off times, which were already verging on the ridiculous will now be at the mercy of the highest bidder looking to fill their TV schedules.

As a fan, going to the game has always been much much more than the actual game itself. I was talking to a mate last night and the match going ritual starts when you get up and ends when you hit the sack, the 90 minutes in between are when you sober up a bit and have a pie. When we were shit that's what we did, now we are good we still do it, but now I fear we do it no more.

I do genuinely hope that everyone who did watch it, enjoyed it and continue to do so, I will always love City, but last night football lost its magic for me. That magic is walking through the tunnel under the Kippax to watch a game under floodlights and seeing the crowd and the pitch as a young boy and thinking I was in heaven, there is no magic for me in a game on TV played in front of empty stands with piped in crowd noise. No magic at all.

Stop trying to construct some kind of existential crisis. It was just football on TV. A forced reaction to a pandemic that has touched every corner of the globe. Fans will return soon, and in the meantime this is the best we can do. It's sad but you have to do your best.

 

[TonyM]

Funny how the VAR were benefits United of all teams. Confusing too their explanation. The cameras didn't pick it up but the notification was delayed. Are these not contradictory?

 

[asahartford1]

Hawkeye has been used in 9,000 matches. Until tonight it has never been wrong. Tonight when the keeper was clearly over the line holding the ball against the goal post, Hawkeye didn't give a goal, none of the officials did and VAR didn't intervene.

Perhaps you could explain how that happened.

I am a bit surprised at your reaction.

There are genuine mistakes, and there are colossal blunders, I would put this malfunction somewhere between the two.
The fact that Hawkeye is not infallible is not the issue, i do think however the game should have been stopped and VAR could have made the right decision. That Oliver did not query it, and that the var did not react quickly enough tells us something about the overall paucity of PIGMOL.

To those suggesting it was some sort of get United into fifth policy, I think such outlandish claims lessen the argument when on other occasions there is actually good cause to raise a stink, we do not have any top referees in this country and that reflects on the organisation and recruitment of those that are in charge, unfortunately that will not change any time soon.

Sheff Utd were actually very poor in the game, although of course the "goal" may have changed that.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I am a bit surprised at your reaction.

There are genuine mistakes, and there are colossal blunders, I would put this malfunction somewhere between the two.
The fact that Hawkeye is not infallible is not the issue, i do think however the game should have been stopped and VAR could have made the right decision. That Oliver did not query it, and that the var did not react quickly enough tells us something about the overall paucity of PIGMOL.

To those suggesting it was some sort of get United into fifth policy, I think such outlandish claims lessen the argument when on other occasions there is actually good cause to raise a stink, we do not have any top referees in this country and that reflects on the organisation and recruitment of those that are in charge, unfortunately that will not change any time soon.

Sheff Utd were actually very poor in the game, although of course the "goal" may have changed that.

Agreed but that decision does make you think doesn't it? I don't think that decision would be given by Oliver against United or Liverpool. I am not saying he's totally corrupt but he is a total coward. He's not fit to referee top flight matches.

 

[Marvin]

Agreed but that decision does make you think doesn't it? I don't think that decision would be given by Oliver against United or Liverpool. I am not saying he's totally corrupt but he is a total coward. He's not fit to referee top flight matches.

The surprise for me is that VAR did not award the goal. I don't believe there's any conspiracy but when you can see it's a goal and you do nothing, what is the point of it?

 

[asahartford1]

Agreed but that decision does make you think doesn't it? I don't think that decision would be given by Oliver against United or Liverpool. I am not saying he's totally corrupt but he is a total coward. He's not fit to referee top flight matches.

i agree. Unless the system changes from grass roots to recruitment of elite fast tracking the dire nature of refereeing in this country will continue.
The Fa and Pigmol are not fit for purpose.

But those suggesting a betting fraud or United crusade are way off mark.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

a celebration camera? HAHAHAHAHA