Corruption in English football?

[nellyonthewing]

The Referees have grown up influenced by seeing their predecessors take it up the backside from Fergie ,its imprinted in their DNA.... Add a media love in that dates back to Munich and Hillsborough tragedies and the perfect storm of media plus latent bias in football hierachy and you get what we have had on view for decades.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Either that person is completely delusional or I am.

It’s not you mate (not here anyway ;-) )

 

[Newman Noggs]

You just have to realise what it took to expose the mp's expense scandal and scandal is putting it very, very lightly. 1000s of politicians of all persuasions kept very, very quite about it and kept stealing money from the public purse over years and years.

So a few 'rigged' football matches in favour of the some select teams should be relatively easy to keep quiet, especially with the incentive of some hush money.

Make no mistake, this is going on and unless you are in the select few you will be royally screwed.

The other question I'd ask is in whose interest it would be to blow the whistle. There's a reason American owners are piling in. Money isn't just made from profits, every transfer, contract signed has its skim-offs so it's a cash cow for everyone. The owners of most PL clubs don't give a toss about winning the thing, they probably never will, the important thing is just keeping their nose in the trough.

So who is likely to break ranks ? City's owners ? And who would believe us ?

 

[Jesus2020]

Having a debate with 2 family members who just don't see it. Don't want to see it. They're too giddy at being joint top.

Anyone got some cold hard facts for me to send them?

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

There’s no corruption in the premier league. If there was and it could be proved a journalist would have outed it. Not all journalists are pathetic and there are many who would break such a story.

I totally appreciate that the rags and Liverpool get the most decisions but it’s not down to corruption. It’s down to them being morally bankrupt and knowing when to go down. If there’s a touch they are down. I’m proud that we don’t do the same. It’s clear with VAR that if you get touched and go down you get it and it won’t be overturned. The red clubs are trained to collapse at the slightest touch, we are not and that’s why we get less decisions.

This is one of the more reasonable posts in this thread, not least because it does make some mention of the need for proof and there is nothing which would satisfy a court, and corruption is a matter for the courts. What we saw last night at OT was NOT corruption but a decision by a referee, confirmed by VAR, with which we disagreed. For this to be corrupt it would have to be PROVED that the referee (and other officials involved) took the decision for reasons other than the application of the laws of the game (eg to ensure United got the three points) OR that they had conspired with a third party influence the course and outcome of the game (eg a betting syndicate or an official of another football club). Proof has to be beyond reasonable doubt and evidence such as the regularity of "controversial" decisions in favour of the same clubs is not proof of any kind. Nor is hearsay: "this will never be allowed to happen again" is something we may read on Bluemoon - unless we have irrefutable evidence that the said official took illegal measures to ensure it didn't happen again. It is clear that corruption is very difficult indeed to prove.

I do, however, have real difficulty in accepting your assertion that "There's no corruption in the premier league". My SUSPICION is that corruption is actually quite widespread, but I certainly have no proof and I have no idea whether certain clubs, certain officials or betting syndicates or all three are behind it.

 

[Owdman]

Having a debate with 2 family members who just don't see it. Don't want to see it. They're too giddy at being joint top.

Anyone got some cold hard facts for me to send them?

Show them a clip of the donkey tripping himself up and getting a penalty.

 

[Mike Cledford]

YES as for proof we all saw yet again with our own eyes yesterday. What other explanation can there be ? A slight tangle of legs with the help of VAR saw it as a pen. Since VAR the cheating has become more obvious but no one will speak out because they want jobs within the industry

Yes as l walked the dog in the snow l was thinking the same so you beat me to it. Its ridiculous to even consider that out of such a huge body of journalists,few if any openly say how poor the game has become since VAR and refs have become immune from criticism.

 

[Kippax77]

Having a debate with 2 family members who just don't see it. Don't want to see it. They're too giddy at being joint top.

Anyone got some cold hard facts for me to send them?

Almost every game those 2 have played in the last 2 seasons

 

[Jesus2020]

Show them a clip of the donkey tripping himself up and getting a penalty.

Bloke at my work reckons pogba has form for this. His trick. Would be good to see a series of pics of it to share

 

[Paul1970]

Spot on we’re all talking about the rags “help” this season like it’s a new thing they were placed were

keys is probably the only one to bang the drum about it he’s got an axe to grind with sky and he will definitely know about the dodgy going’s on

I said at the end of last season to watch out for Utd and his season as it’s gonna be there turn to maybe win the title and it’s happening now with he luck and decisions they have now been put into a title race that they should be nowhere near . Last season Liverpool deservedly won the title but the year before every decision went there way and it was only because of a historical run of games undefeated that we did it . Get ready for it because these fuckers could win it .