Countries and their ashamed history

[Nethermoor]

So the Coronation and the complaints from people about how the UK used to try to take over the world brings the interesting debate.

How far do we go back for each country? I really don't think there's a country going that doesn't have skeletons in their closet, yet somehow we're easy targets due to our past.

We don't moan at Norway about Vikings.
The USA, Australia etc were both taken from the natives.

If there is a completely clean country i'd be interested to know... maybe Greenland? Faroes?

 

[Koniec]

I don’t think whataboutery is the best defence of British misdeeds. It’s also worth noting that the US, Canada and Aussies (all British at one point) do get routinely criticised for their past and even current shenanigans. The Spanish were absolute cunts in the America’s.

Empires tend to be wanky by nature, you are subjugating a local population to a rule alien to them. Sparta, Athens, Byzantine, Holy Roman etc etc. all get praised for their contributions to the world but also criticised for their wrongdoings.

Clean countries. Polska, Ireland, Scotchland, Wales, Sicily, probably a few African ones.

 

[BimboBob]

Scotchland and Wales clean? Forever bursting into England and stealing cattle and slaves.

Sicily is part of Italy so therefore just as bad.

 

[City Hobgoblin]

I'll raise you Belgians in the Congo

 

[snorky]

Bloody Taffs, raping our sheep and eating our women.

 

[aguero93:20]

Clean countries. Polska, Ireland, Scotchland, Wales, Sicily, probably a few African ones.

One quick look at the surnames used by descendants of slaves across both Americas would confirm the Irish were no shrinking violets when it came to the slave trade.

Plus, we did try the whole genocide thing with the Welsh a few times.

 

[Bill Walker]

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The USA, Australia etc were both taken from the natives.

By the British.

 

[Koniec]

One quick look at the surnames used by descendants of slaves across both Americas would confirm the Irish were no shrinking violets when it came to the slave trade.

Plus, we did try the whole genocide thing with the Welsh a few times.

Individuals aren’t the whole. I
The Duke of Wellington was born in Ireland but he’s not considered Irish. My own family colonised Ireland in the 1600s, they moved there from Scotland. Is that a Scotland thing, a religious group thing or individual?

 

[Koniec]

Bloody Taffs, raping our sheep and eating our women.

Says a lot about your women :D

 

[aguero93:20]

Individuals aren’t the whole. I
The Duke of Wellington was born in Ireland but he’s not considered Irish. My own family colonised Ireland in the 1600s, they moved there from Scotland. Is that a Scotland thing, a religious group thing or individual?

I'd say there was an awful lot of individuals then. Much like other places in Europe, there were plenty of innocent people that didn't have the means to get involved and enrich themselves.

With regards your family I wouldn't go blaming individual families or their descendants (apart from Cromwell and his progeny, fuck them).