COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[denislawsbackheel]

I think you are being a little bit negative here. Trials are exactly that. They may have learned things from the trials that point them in the direction of a more successful outcome.

The scientists have said all along they are confident that this thing can beaten it might take a little time. I have faith that they will crack it.

Why?
40 years of HIV
SARS
MERS
Nowt.

 

[citizen_maine]

I would sacrifice 100K Scousers if it meant saving one life.

what if the one life was also scouse?

 

[Nightmare Walking]

Why?
40 years of HIV
SARS
MERS
Nowt.

Thats a bit disingenuous really. HIV was a death sentence 40 years ago, now it is not due to treatments.
Now I know the treatments do not eradicate HIV but they keep people alive and their expected lifespan is exactly the same, as long as they can continue the treatments.

The progress that has been made with HIV treatments is outstanding. They now have PREP, which stops people getting infected in the first place. So although there is no cure for HIV, there are therapeutics which keep you alive and ones that stop you getting it in the first place.

 

[kaz7]

Why?
40 years of HIV
SARS
MERS
Nowt.

That is a good point,it would have created panic to say at the start how difficult it might be to discover one , i feel like they were too gushing about one realy,it has raised too much expectation,i notice recently there are more experts here and in America that are saying we might not find a good enough one and we might just have to live with it,i think we will find one but not till middle/late next year,we will have treatments though much sooner than that

 

[Nightmare Walking]

what if the one life was also scouse?

He's only a poor little Scouser, his face is all tattered and torn.......................

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Why?
40 years of HIV
SARS
MERS
Nowt.

I dont follow. HIV is managed these days through drugs which reduce it to virtually zero in the body

 

[Summerbuzz]

HIV is a proper mess to try and vaccinate against. Our bodies do not generate a response to fight the virus. There is no animal subject to HIV infection that we can use to model and test, so.... what on earth would you base a vaccine on? HIV is also known to mutate very quickly.

SARS, on the other hand, was crushed before a vaccine was required. MERS too - total cases according to the WHO is 2500 in seven years

A COVID19 vaccine would sell billions, possibly annually in perpetuity. Success with Tamiflu gives us plenty of reason to hope, as does a tonne of data showing specific COVID immune responses of one kind or another.

Tho personally, any notion of it rolling out this autumn is pie in the sky. Usual positive spin, cum ignorance, cum outright lying, that we have been subjected to all year by a govt way out of it's depth at anything much more demanding than winding a section of the population up with wilful displays of arrogance.

 

[somapop]

And I think SARS & MERS petered out enough to not warrant huge resources being thrown at them (vaccine bit necessarily required).
I still hope that not only do they find a vaccine for this but for other viruses too (which many virologists have hoped for).
There been a vast amount of energy spent on the science.

 

[SWP's back]

Why?
40 years of HIV
SARS
MERS
Nowt.

Some positive news on the HIV front in the last week or so.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/long-acting-injectable-drug-prevents-hiv-infections#

 

[ayrshire_blue]

would be ok for herd immunity but those at risk could still get hammered by it I guess?

I never even thought about it from the Herd immunity side of things, but yeah, I suppose that would be right enough. If the risk was reduced for those vulnerable through weakened symptoms so that they have a strong to very strong chance of survival then it could open the door back to a semblance of normality. Simply a case of sitting back and waiting to see for now though.