COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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  1. ganganvince

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    Perhaps if the journalists used their ample question time to raise it at the briefings we could get qualified scientific answers instead of wasting nearly a week on pointless shit.
     
  2. Cityfan

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    A working app may help but it is not necessarily crucial to the success of contact tracing, adequate numbers of decent tracers and a quick and reliable testing regime probably are.
     
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  3. BlueAnorak

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    Interestingly in all the details of track and trace that have been published, I can find no details of personal geopositioning (I.e. mobile phone location) or bank/credit card usage. Now most of the latter is online at the moment, but as we open up it will become more important.
    Without both being fed into the equation, I can't see that it's going to work.

    Here's how track an trace will work in the UK:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/29/test-trace-track-uk-coronavirus/

    And when the app is added to the mix:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/05/29/nhs-app-track-trace-uk-coronavirus/
     
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  4. Eds

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    And Wales, Ireland and Scotland are also relaxing measures despite them being devolved. The problem you have is that everyone is calling for a relaxation but when it is suggested everyone then moans about it. For example look at the issue with quarantine and arrivals at airports. Everyone screaming why isn't it happening and when it's proposed everyone screaming it's unjust. In theory every decision is a political one despite the science behind it but some of what is spouted on Twitter, papers etc is mental i.e. 5G is too blame
     
  5. twosips

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    Hmmm. This ain't good.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/sci...me-strategy-hiv-dodge-immune-response-chinese

    Essentially, looks like this is likely to hang around and flare up again in people. Really bad in fact. Sars didn't do this, and its a notable difference.
     
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  6. grunge

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    Im no civil liberties type, Im an app developer and I have to say I woudn't touch this app with a barge pole. there is one 1 reason they didn't use the google/apple approach and that is down to wanting to harvest data. No real clarity about who can access the data, no clarity on restrictions in place around that data. and keeping it for 20 years? No thanks.

    the google/apple solution was ready to go, quicker to develop, more secure and more private in general.

    at best, I may use an old device I have with a payg sim and old a new anonymous email address.

    I do think if it wasn't given to a team that had already abused data in such a horrific way then it woudn't be causing quite as big of a fuss. but too late for that.
     
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  7. grunge

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    Apparently this site is quite good at posting dodgy data. check back in a week or so and see it mentions about the papers being recinded.

    I think this is the same site that posted an article saying the virus could linger and infect in the air many hours later and survive on sufaces for 5 days at 37%'c etc. that got recinded quickly, the site did report that which is a bonus to them.


    Although I do recall from the early days of Dr Campbell videos he did say that this does hide from the immune system effecting white bloodcell production. so maybe the same thing.
     
  8. BlueAnorak

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    ... according to a sky journalist.
    New daily cases under 2000 with many regions at much lower levels of infection seems ok as the time to start for me.
     
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  9. denislawsbackheel

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    As I understand the contact tracing you get symptomatic, you notify and get sent a test in the post. You send it back and if tested positive you are then emailed or phoned to provide names, emails and phone numbers of people you remember being in contact with.

    Stuff that!


    You will get a phone call asking for the phone numbers and email addresses of your contacts!
    Anyone trying that with me unverified will get a two word answer.
    I don’t even talk to my bank when they call me, even when I know it’s them. I always tell them to put anything important in writing or if I think it may be critical I call the bank via another phone.
    It will be a scammers paradise.
     
  10. BlueAnorak

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    As at IT Architect for the last 20 years the data is going to be kept safe by Caldecott Guardians in the NHS/PHE .
    Having dealt with Goigle as well as the NHS, I'd trust the NHS/PHE with my data more than I trust Google/Apple.
     

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