COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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The gov web site btw is seemingly going to continue publishing both sets of death figures and allowing you to compare.

They now show yesterday's 77 all settings deaths & total of 46,706 with a new box below stating 'Deaths within 28 days of positive test'. Allowing day to day comparison.

The second box shows yesterday that 77 and cummulative total would be on this newly adopted measure for yesterday just 20 deaths not 77 and 41,329 in total.

So 57 of yesterday's 77 do not count if you only use the 28 day measure. No wonder out of hospital deaths have been high lately compared with hospital deaths.
 
The 13 UK hospital deaths today were aged between 49 and 90 and just one - aged 86 - had no known underlying health conditions.
 
Apparently the website now says they will add a 60 days death total to the 28 day one in due course - presumably replacing the current non date confined larger total.
 
grunge said:
this is why, when I see people saying "Just open up, its fine" I laugh a little inside with despair...
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Basing our next move on what is happening in America would be ridiculous. We have seen how the virus behaves in every location that has been impacted and some states in America are lagging behind others so are only just getting it. You wouldn't have suggested closing down the UK when Ebola or SARS were threatening to run riot in other countries so why is it so ridiculous that we should be thinking about opening up when our situation is totally different to theirs.
 
kaz7 said:
Wembley was very early,we didn't have deaths or data at that point,all the mass gatherings that followed should not have been allowed let alone boris going to the rugby and shaking hands and them at the top catching it,football shutting down did us a favour
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Yes, but my very point is that 1st March was already too late, but we didn't know it.

Half term was the previous week (or 2 as there is a bit of spread of weeks), where people had gone into very infected regions without knowing that they were, and they brought it back here, where it spread in the community as it had done there, without their knowledge 2 or 3 weeks earlier.

Oh and 80000 went to the rugby so why single boris out ? He didn't know, just like the other 79,999 people, that lots were already infected, and were infecting others, particularly in the southeast, where people share a transport system for work, where you can pretty much breathe straight up someone elses nose.

Were mistakes made ? Yes, and they still are being, but this is worldwide, and as you keep saying, this is a new virus, so we still know relatively little about it, but it's a whole lot more than the nothing we knew about it in early March.
 
kaz7 said:
Why would you say that? We started dealing with real data and real patients six months ago,science is the opposite of guess work
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Well science first led us to believe that 500k would die in the UK alone and quickly changed that to 20k, so I wouldn't say it can be relied on all the time. The scientists are the ones that advised the government to lock down at first and to follow the herd immunity method. You didn't seem to agree with science then.

They are guessing as much as anyone else even if it based on something more than a hunch.
 
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