COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Healdplace]

Yes more tests are finding a higher percentage of cases.

However, the most likely reason deaths are not yet rising is that the most vulnerable are keeping out of the way of those who are catching it.

But that cannot last forever. If it could then it would be a good thing to let them catch it and try to burn this thing out.

But as the weather changes they WILL mix with the vulnerable and kill them.

Somebody has to get the message out to both the vulnerable (as I say via ads using Bill Roache etc) and the kids (some icon of theirs) that this is the consequence of where we are now.

Nobody is going to trust Hancock telling them not to kill granny. Apart from the ones who are sensible anyway. And they are not the problem here. Its the irresponsible minority who only care about themselves.

But if not people will die. Greater Manchester will go in full lockdown again and it might have to be enforced this time too,

 

[cleavers]

Feels like it’s a different second wave. I’m expecting Case numbers to go through the roof because of the amount we are testing - but death toll to go nowhere near what it was.

Lets hope so, the last time it was near 3000, cases were falling, so deaths were falling 4 weeks later (around 80), but when it was on the rise near 3000 (March 31st), 4 weeks later the death rate was around 700 per day.

 

[blueinsa]

I'm getting tired of the messaging from government. I live in Scotland so heard Nicola warning us that we had to do more today.

What more do citizens have to do? We are being asked to go back to work, to eat out, to get back shopping etc yet we are constantly being told we need to do more?

This is now becoming a joke and we either go into full lockdown and literally hide ourselves away until the virus is no longer a threat or we do what mankind has always done and that is live and face up to the fact nature will always through things like this our way and that we have to adapt and live with it.

Its not going away, ever. Its another yearly flu type virus that will sadly kill thousands but it isn't going to go away.

The current flip/flop approach to what we can and can not do can not carry on much longer and those leading us need to pick a way forward and stick to it.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Lets hope so, the last time it was near 3000, cases were falling, so deaths were falling 4 weeks later (around 80), but when it was on the rise near 3000 (March 31st), 4 weeks later the death rate was around 700 per day.

but the 3000 from last time were pretty much feeling ill and calling for hospital treatment

i suspect half of the 3000 recently had no symtoms when they took the test

 

[cleavers]

i suspect half of the 3000 recently had no symtoms when they took the test

You still can't really have a test without symptoms, unless advised to by track and trace.

Also whilst the ones that were being tested then were already very ill, they presumably weren't 3 or 4 weeks earlier, so somebody infected them, and they could easily have been asymptomatic just as now.

We'll only know how deaths are being affected in 3 or 4 weeks time.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I'm getting tired of the messaging from government. I live in Scotland so heard Nicola warning us that we had to do more today.

What more do citizens have to do? We are being asked to go back to work, to eat out, to get back shopping etc yet we are constantly being told we need to do more?

This is now becoming a joke and we either go into full lockdown and literally hide ourselves away until the virus is no longer a threat or we do what mankind has always done and that is live and face up to the fact nature will always through things like this our way and that we have to adapt and live with it.

Its not going away, ever. Its another yearly flu type virus that will sadly kill thousands but it isn't going to go away.

The current flip/flop approach to what we can and can not do can not carry on much longer and those leading us need to pick a way forward and stick to it.

the balance is simple, try and keep the economy alive whilst maintaining social distancing, masks etc to reduce case numbers and hospitals getting overwhelmed, you can't have one or the other as both are equally damaging to society - it's a horrible balance and until there is a Vaccine i can't see it changing.

Would you really want to be in a governmental position that says ''forget the virus,lets just open up again ' and then see the daily death count doubling and doubling ?

 

[Eds]

I'm getting tired of the messaging from government. I live in Scotland so heard Nicola warning us that we had to do more today.

What more do citizens have to do? We are being asked to go back to work, to eat out, to get back shopping etc yet we are constantly being told we need to do more?

This is now becoming a joke and we either go into full lockdown and literally hide ourselves away until the virus is no longer a threat or we do what mankind has always done and that is live and face up to the fact nature will always through things like this our way and that we have to adapt and live with it.

Its not going away, ever. Its another yearly flu type virus that will sadly kill thousands but it isn't going to go away.

The current flip/flop approach to what we can and can not do can not carry on much longer and those leading us need to pick a way forward and stick to it.

Do more by going out etc but stop acting like dicks and going to illegal raves, packing out bars etc

 

[BlueHammer85]

You still can't really have a test without symptoms, unless advised to by track and trace.

oh i thought anyone can just apply for one nowadays

 

[blueinsa]

Do more by going out etc but stop acting like dicks and going to illegal raves, packing out bars etc

99.99% are not doing that so what more do they want us to do?

 

[Healdplace]

The marvellous government web site has blown yet another fuse!

I have the horrible picture of what the tech required to stop an incoming nuclear missile attack might be like given weeks of this utter rubbish.

Incoming missile - 10 minutes to detonation.

The nuclear defence website is having technical difficulties. We are doing our best to fix it. Please try again later.

Ps: If there is a later.