COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Exactly how I feel where l when I see every one of your doom induced posts. Noticed you didn't seem to post on here when cases and deaths were low, suddenly theres a hint of bad news and you pop back up. Weird that.

do you cringe at the medical experts and front line NHS workers who think this is a serious issue ?
 
Great article for all you panickers and case counters, hopefully put things into a bit of perspective for you.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/500000-covid19-math-mistake-panic/


I don't think anyone ever really doubted that the true death rate would be much lower than estimated at the start because this happens all the time with these outbreaks. You only see the worst cases up front and discover as you go along how many are asymptomatic. It is why the WHO echoed test test test almost from day one as until you do in big numbers you never get a true perspective on who actually gets a disease but never needs to trouble the health care system.

It happened 10 years ago when we had an outbreak of something. It seemed more deadly as most cases were never really recorded. I almost certainly had that one as I recall being very ill for a few days but struggled on as I had commitments and got better. So I never got counted and only much later when they collated data about the numbers who did have it was it apparent that it was far less virulent because most data came from a small number of cases. And many more had it without ever knowing even years later that they had.

Exactly the same will be true of Covid. This was seen relatively soon as the death rates were all over the place in different countries and I recall talking to my friend in the US as her son was an ER doctor in the thick of it in Seattle. My friend could not understand why the death rate looked so much higher in the UK (around 10%) and I kept saying its not but it looks to be because we only test the really sick and so they are more likely to die and not the ones who have it who mostly just stay home and get better. The majority of whom were never tested.

As I recall the 3% death rate appearing by averaging stuff out was never thought by most scientists to be accurate and WHO quite early said it would be sub 1%. And it will likely as most of these things end up being even lower when we can tally the numbers.

But the lockdown was a precaution that was necessary as you do not gamble everything on thousands of human lives and its main purpose was in any case to stop the spread as the infectivity of Covid was the biggest problem not its death rate. Unlike many viruses it is worst at a point when the person passing it on to you neither knows they are sick or even looks sick to you. So without isolation it spreads very easily.

That was a big reason why lockdown happened to stop the invisible infected from infecting others until we understood more about what was happening.

Covid is not like the Walking Dead where it is obvious when someone has that bug. It had to be treated differently
 
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250 schools in the UK now. It was 17 last Thursday. Kids off school again will not be far away.

Not the answer. Have to keep kids in school but keep them away from grandparents and anyone over 55.
 
Not the answer. Have to keep kids in school but keep them away from grandparents and anyone over 55.

Like the teachers?

I don’t know what the answer is but this was always going to be like this after fucking about at the very beginning and the poorly managed loosening of lockdown

However, kids need to be kept in school where possible to allow the adults to go to work.
 
Not the answer. Have to keep kids in school but keep them away from grandparents and anyone over 55.
How many 55yo do you think work in schools? How many with asthma or other underlying health conditions?

And do you think if a child in a class tests positive the class/school should just carry on?
 
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