COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Healdplace]

Wales data - 0 deaths happily. But 150 cases at 2.1%.

Last week it was 1 death and 51 cases at 1.1%.

 

[mancity1]

Matt Hancock also commented on reinfection cases and says there is now evidence that they are real but that in every case he has studied the second infection has been different and milder and all but asymptomatic.

Asymptomatic cases are the deadly ones of course for those with weak/ poor immune systems at least.

Many different strains to this pandemic but isolate when you get for 14 days and you should survive.

In the end you will find that 95 per cent of the deaths are those with one or more comorbidity.

Wear a mask , socially distance and use you the brain you were given and it will be over in a couple of years at worst.

Anyone with elderly parents or grand parents make sure they are isolated if they have weak immune systems.

This pandemic is your typical sonic with some white noise thrown in for good measure.

Early days but looks like the Spanish flu was much more virulent and we had multiple strains and at least 4 spikes back then.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital data 8 deaths. It was 9 last Tuesday.

All 8 are from the past three days and 6 of them are from the NW - maintaining the high death rate in the NW of recent days.

 

[Healdplace]

The data now reads for England hospital deaths:

7 Sep adds 3 = 3 after one day. (highest first day number in 12 days).

6 Sep adds 3 = 3 after two days.

5 Sep adds 2= 8 after three days (second highest three day number in two weeks),

That is it. No earlier additions.

So 4 Sep stays at 3 after four days and 3 Sep stays at 3 after five days,

It is now 23 days since the five day total for England hospital deaths was not a single figure below 10. And of those 23 days only two have gone above it with add ons during those 23 days - 15 Aug to 11 and 26 Aug to 10.

The days from 27 Aug on currently read as total 6, 4, 1, 3, 6, 3, 9, 3. In fact only 1 new death has been added to any of those dates in the past week - 27 Aug moving from 5 to 6. The rest are what they were at five days.

Happily at least this is not evidence for deaths in England hospitals rising consistently. Yet.

Though the number of new deaths recently focused on the North West mitigates that a little as we might expect the other regions just starting to uptick cases like the NW to follow this trend in a week or two.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

99 per cent of cases are mild

Define 'mild', as that statistic is not accurate. The number of people who have survived and only had 'mild' effects is significantly higher than 1 percent. I had it back in March and I would not define the symptoms as 'mild', I totally lost me voice and was coughing up a lot of mucus for a week.

The measures in Melbourne/Victoria are way over the top - but social distancing measures have to be in place for a long while to come.

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland did something unusual. Pushed back the release of their new data to 2.30 pm and just now again to 4 pm.

There has been a Covid outbreak in a hospital in Craigavon it seems with four deaths and several still very unwell. This is the cause of the increase in ventilator patients in the country I presume.

The government are investigating, all staff are being tested and people with Covid have been found on several wards.

 

[Healdplace]

So for now we know there are 11 UK hospital deaths (though that may go up if N Ireland adds more as it has been doing). Last week it was 10. But that became 3 on the all settings total later.

Without N Ireland cases (which have been high numbers so not irrelevant) the running case total for Scotland and Wales today is 326 - by some way the most from just these two countries for quite a while.

Last week the equivalent was 205 and became 254 when N Ireland was added.

It looks set to be over 400 today. And the % rate has risen from 1.2 and 1.1% last week to 2.3 and 2.1% this week.

 

[mancity1]

Define 'mild', as that statistic is not accurate. The number of people who have survived and only had 'mild' effects is significantly higher than 1 percent. I had it back in March and I would not define the symptoms as 'mild', I totally lost me voice and was coughing up a lot of mucus for a week.

The measures in Melbourne/Victoria are way over the top - but social distancing measures have to be in place for a long while to come.

I would estimate that world wide allowing for asymptomatic not tested , cases not tested and recovered and cases not reported ( many millions ) misdiagnosis ( both ways albeit more on the non covid side as is always the case in respiratory disease diagnosis ) the true death rate from covid including those dying with comorbids previously tested positive the vast majority of which would included as covid deaths you get a better picture of the true death rate.

Mild is as per worldmeters.info.

Did your GP decide on hospitalisation and did you require a drip or a ventilator?

Interestingly many I believe will get a second strain but I hope you are fully recovered or on your way to your pre covid self.

Death rates have reduced since May 2020 but the active cases serious and critical have stayed put at 1 per cent of active cases.

I believe we haven't seen the worst of the death numbers world wide yet over time and this is not surprising at all especially for those that still have closed borders and went for a suppression or elimination strategy.

Mass lock downs don't work with these pandemics they do far more damage than they otherwise would.

You isolate and quarantine the sick and vulnerable pure and simple if you want to keep deaths to a minimum its not rocket science.

Of course better treatments like zinc with known antibiotics will reduce deaths and a 90 per cent effective vaccine will be a game changer but I am not banking on an effective vaccine.

I am most interested in the two meaningful countries at both ends of the spectrum that don't involve lockdowns.

Sweden and Taiwan as far as individual freedoms and a vastly different technological and economic response.

Take a look at their reported deaths vis a vis deaths in the population from 2019 to 2020 it makes for some interesting reading.

 

[grunge]

Define 'mild', as that statistic is not accurate. The number of people who have survived and only had 'mild' effects is significantly higher than 1 percent. I had it back in March and I would not define the symptoms as 'mild', I totally lost me voice and was coughing up a lot of mucus for a week.

The measures in Melbourne/Victoria are way over the top - but social distancing measures have to be in place for a long while to come.

Flu is classed as mild. so pretty much a week or 2 in bed feeling like your about to die can still be classed as mild. so in this case mild can be non existent -> 2 weeks in bed. past that point its pretty much hospital.


However the last break down I saw was ( a while ago mind you) something like 15% need hospital + 5% need ICU. cant find any more up papers or scientific data now to be fair so world meter is probably about as good as it gets.

 

[kaz7]

Just had a call from the asthma nurse at the surgery , part of the refferal to the lung consultant includes for the Spiro test,they have to do one, deep clean the equipment and room and leave the room for an hour,that is why they can't do them at the surgery,that test I need more anything

She has talked me through using the inhalers and spacer and given me lots of advice , i asked her if she thinks this is it for me now and she honestly said you should prepare yourself that it might be, she has booked another telephone appt for three weeks time

Booked in for the flu jab in October and told to stop going out as the winter viruses and covid are ramping up now

Anyway the help is still there, whatever the concern ring the surgery ,they have always been at least on the end of the phone , anything you are more worried about like breathing or feeling ill or suspected covid then call 111 , they have been brilliant all along, sent me an ambulance when I was struggling and got me in front of a Dr at the start , any emergencies call 999 , they are all still there