COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Churchlawtonblue]

Got my flu jab this morning. If you qualify via your job or age, you should defintely get it this year as if you get flu and then catch Covid you are 6 times more likely to die.

 

[inchy14]

So, your assumption is that pensioners are wealthy, stop right there with that one.
Of course it hurts the retired. Could you survive on a state pension and confined to your house?

But the retired are already surviving on the state pension! They aren’t having that cut like wages of those businesses being closed or those that have gone to the wall.
I’d rather be trying to survive on my regular pension than trying to survive on the dole which is what I’ve currently got to look forward to!!

 

[Winchester]

Got my flu jab this morning. If you qualify via your job or age, you should defintely get it this year as if you get flu and then catch Covid you are 6 times more likely to die.

Yes had mine q couple of weeks ago agreed

 

[mosssideblue]

But the retired are already surviving on the state pension! They aren’t having that cut like wages of those businesses being closed or those that have gone to the wall.
I’d rather be trying to survive on my regular pension than trying to survive on the dole which is what I’ve currently got to look forward to!!

I'm sorry you are facing the dole, but if you had any inkling about the older generation, you would know many have to take part time work not only for the extra money to make ends meet, but also to have interaction with others to a) keep their minds active and b), overcome loneliness.

Mental health affects all ages.

I am prob too late, but do not make assumptions against something you have no knowledge or experience.

 

[inchy14]

I'm sorry you are facing the dole, but if you had any inkling about the older generation, you would know many have to take part time work not only for the extra money to make ends meet, but also to have interaction with others to a) keep their minds active and b), overcome loneliness.

Mental health affects all ages.

I am prob too late, but do not make assumptions against something you have no knowledge or experience.

I totally understand that and as I’ve posted earlier I was more worried about my mums mental health during the earlier lockdown than anything else. I also wasn’t suggesting that everyone who is retired won’t be affected in anyway at all.
My whole argument is that we’re going to make the gap between rich and poor wider with these further restrictions across the north. And a lot of these restrictions make no sense whatsoever. The government have shown their contempt for the average man on the street in their handling of these measures.

 

[Healdplace]

The Northern Mayors in their virtual meeting just now have really laid into the government and rejected the new furlough offer officially and called for more by letter.

They are also considering a legal challenge unless they are given control of testing and tracing locally instead of the coming restrictions being imposed and controlled from Whitehall.

Andy Burnham said that we need local boots on the ground tracing and isolating not phone calls from London. And to be 'masters of our own destiny' if we accept stringent restrictions on livelihoods.

Some people have apparently been phoned multiple times by different remote track and trace callers unaware someone already did this days before. He said local tracers actually visiting is far more efficient and they keep telling government this but they are not listening.

 

[mosssideblue]

I totally understand that and as I’ve posted earlier I was more worried about my mums mental health during the earlier lockdown than anything else. I also wasn’t suggesting that everyone who is retired won’t be affected in anyway at all.
My whole argument is that we’re going to make the gap between rich and poor wider with these further restrictions across the north. And a lot of these restrictions make no sense whatsoever. The government have shown their contempt for the average man on the street in their handling of these measures.

I agree that the rich will come out of this still being rich, but that is nothing to do with Covid.

I initially responded to you because you certainly did infer that pensioners would not be affected, which you now clearly concede they will or may be.

I disagree with you about the government showing contempt for the younger population. I agree their message has often been reactive and at times, unclear but they are between a rock and a hard place, trying to spin plates that protects as many of the population whilst trying to maintain financials.

There are no easy answers and whichever route is taken, some will feel let down

 

[inchy14]

Sacha Cohen has just come up with a great point. The government forcing businesses to pay their staff 67% of their wage and now paying below minimum wage, you could argue that’s illegal and he’s also correct in that we’re forcing people into debt.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

The Northern Mayors in their virtual meeting just now have really laid into the government and rejected the new furlough offer officially and called for more by letter.

They are also considering a legal challenge unless they are given control of testing and tracing locally instead of the coming restrictions being imposed and controlled from Whitehall.

Andy Burnham said that we need local boots on the ground tracing and isolating not phone calls from London. And to be 'masters of our own destiny' if we accept stringent restrictions on livelihoods.

Some people have apparently been phoned multiple times by different remote track and trace callers unaware someone already did this days before. He said local tracers actually visiting is far more efficient and they keep telling government this but they are not listening.

Yes there were students on the new yesterday who had phoned 7 times in a day by the National track and trace people.

iIt’s interesting that Mayors oppose the new furlough scheme. Yesterday, I was chatting to somebody who works in a bar and will lose her job when the pubs are forced to close. She said the employer won’t furlough her because they would to top up her pay

 

[Healdplace]

The latest top 10 worst impacted areas shows Manchester down to fourth place, no other GM borough now in the top 10 and only Knowsley seond, Liverpool third , Burnley sixth and Sefton 9th from the North West.

Nottingham is top with numbers 50% higher than Manchester.

Others are Newcastle at 5th, Sheffield 8th and Leeds 10th.

With Exeter at 7th the surprise as the SW is very low and Cornwall is only one of three areas in the UK where cases actually fell last week.