COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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You had it bad too, it is a right fucker to get shot off , feeling good today , second day on third course of pred and fourth course of antibiotics , it is a marathon not a sprint for sure
Glad to hear.
My chest peak flow capacity is 40 higher than it was last summer but there is still that Asthma cough. It won't go. Maybe I have to move to the coast for a while to get shot if it.
 
Especially restaurant owners are very disappointed. Many tried and invested a lot to ensure safety, they feel they are not the problem,
other than pubs and bars.

Public opinion pre today's announcement was about:
55% in line with govs policy
33% wanted more restrictions
12% wanted less restrictions.

Most people have understood we HAVE to follow rules or it gets ugly and gov then has would have react, with tough consequences for all, including the compliants.

About 15% don't follow the rules for different reasons:
- a certain %age isn't reached by advice due to a barrier of language, cultural differences or simply understanding
- some are unable to follow rules per se. They feel dominated and weak if someone tells them what's important to do now. They are against ANY system. Conspiracy theories are a factor here.

Right now we think Germany is a bit behind the curve compared to many other European areas and we want to buy some more time, early enough to still be able to control a very dynamic process.

It was similar in spring due to huge diagnostic capacities and early testing, also high ICU capacities.

Now most have understood we don't have an alternative.
We know those 15% are the reason for tougher restrictions but in a free society (which we want to be) you'll always have a certain number who haven't learnt to act in a responsible way.

If we want to change society towards more solidarity
we will have to start before kids are 4 years old
and lead by example. It's a multi generational task.
In the end it's about human behaviour and that inevitably means brain development. This is mainly not understood. IMO.

Thanks.
The BBC just said that Merkel wanted to do this two weeks ago but couldn't get countrywide agreement, and told the states/regions they'd all be back this week if they didn't agree. Smart woman.
Some are always going to lose out and it's down to the government to relieve the hit they take.

You're right though, drumming things into the young is needed to change things.
 
Of other places we discuss on here - same basis deaths / rate per 100K

Liverpool has 533 - more than anywhere in GM at rate of 107

Wirral has 350 - at 118

Knowsley 176 at 116.7

Warrington 196 at 93.3

Rossendale 43 at 60.2 (showing why its position in the top 3 worst infected in the UK right now is such big news.

Nottingham has 212 at 63.7

Leicester 291 at 82.2

Blackburn 105 at 70.1

Burnley 68 at 76.5

Blackpool 151 at 108.3


As you can see GM is well above average for deaths even versus some towns with big case numbers.
 
A bloke I know is still taking oxygen from a portable tank 6 months later and has just been diagnosed with heart failure. He was severely ill on hospital in the first wave though but is only early 50’s.

Some studies early on were showing it causes inflammation in the heart of a lot of males even those with no symptoms.
 
Thanks.
The BBC just said that Merkel wanted to do this two weeks ago but couldn't get countrywide agreement, and told the states/regions they'd all be back this week if they didn't agree. Smart woman.
Some are always going to lose out and it's down to the government to relieve the hit they take.

You're right though, drumming things into the young is needed to change things.
Never been a Merkel fan for different reasons, but in this pandemic she is lightyears ahead of other German politicians due to her scientific background.

When I'm talking to other people now moaning about gov decisions I don't argue anymore. I only ask what they would particularily do instead as chancellor of 83 million people in the centre of Europe. Not as a single moaner in the pub. That's the difference.
 
Just come off the phone to my daughter who has recently had it. (All clear now).

She is saying she is still catching her breath and feels absolutely exhausted. She tested positive twice and negative last week. Is it normal to still feel shattered and anyone who has has it, how long before energy comes back?
My cousin just had it, she's the same she's about 60 though. Goes to show that it might not kill the young, but it can give them health issues, I hope she recovers soon.
 
Never been a Merkel fan for different reasons, but in this pandemic she is lightyears ahead of other German politicians due to her scientific background.

When I'm talking to other people now moaning about gov decisions I don't argue anymore. I only ask what they would particularily do instead as chancellor of 83 million people in the centre of Europe. Not as a single moaner in the pub. That's the difference.

Nice approach, That's the key point, that the people in charge have to upset people sometimes. Hope it all works out for you.

I didn't know Merkel's background - could we swap for Johnson, please?
 
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