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Well you won't get good take-up in the general population if you use up the good one on the first 9 groups. It's like the school dinner queue and you're at the back and the only thing left is tofu. Just wait for the next shipment of the good one to come through.
You’re forgetting all the anti-vaxxer conspiracy dickheads who said they won’t have it, so more Pfizer jabs to to go round.
 
Well you won't get good take-up in the general population if you use up the good one on the first 9 groups. It's like the school dinner queue and you're at the back and the only thing left is tofu. Just wait for the next shipment of the good one to come through.

Can see how this will play out. Those of us in our twenties will be given Sputnik V.

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More great news: First vaccine jabs could be as soon as 7th Dec


Food for thought for those on here who want to be able to pick and choose between vaccines on personal preference - logistics defining who gets it first in front even of medical need, let alone personal preference.

Also a reflection that the Oxford/AZ jab could be as soon as a week after that if MHRA can review data on that in the same time frame (I'm guessing they might struggle to do two at once, which could delay things a bit). And if course fingers crossed they actually find it suitable for approval.

The end is increasingly in sight.

On the basis of this, they should absolutely not open up for Xmas - I know many will ignore the rules anyway - but we’re so close to the finish line , why cause a 3rd wave
 
Here are the weekly pop scores for the GM boroughs every 2 days over the past 5 weeks - 24 October to today.

The Pop Score is just total cases over the previous 7 days per100, 000 people. The lower the better. Anything over 500 is usually in the top red watch areas of the UK. Going up is bad. Going down is good. The faster they do so the more cases are falling.

You can track how they have moved over those 5 weeks. The final number is the last 24 hours.

The big ups and downs in some boroughs a week or so before the end are the result of the add on and take off of cases when students were reassigned to Manchester and Salford and taken off elsewhere. After 7 days this impact disappeared off the weekly numbers with sudden drops or rises and normal numbers then returned for the last few.

BOLTON 545 - 562 - 567 - 574 - 596 - 592 - 560 - 553 - 522 - 508 - 472 - 478 - 470 - 411 - 356 - 297 - 313 - 290 - 269

BURY 492 - 511 - 551 - 556 - 611 - 594 - 593 - 597 - 568 - 558 - 523 - 547 - 512 - 438 - 347 - 293 - 317 - 279 - 244

MANCHESTER 492 - 505 - 503 - 517 - 522 - 499 - 479 - 468 - 446 - 429 - 390 - 410 - 403 - 929 - 868 - 820 - 262 - 228 - 208

OLDHAM 596 - 644 - 682 - 731 - 755 - 746 - 789 - 764 - 740 - 688 - 665 - 625 - 601 - 559 - 464 - 408 - 394 - 353 - 290

ROCHDALE 600 - 580 - 608 - 611 - 640 - 622 - 590 - 593 - 575 - 567 - 560 - 552 - 535 - 521 - 441 - 370 - 376 - 336 - 307

SALFORD 565 - 591 - 606 - 637 - 693 - 662 - 646 - 577 - 539 - 501 - 487 - 475 - 637 - 617 - 511 - 440 - 261 - 215 - 176

STOCKPORT 361 - 376 - 411 - 463 - 491 - 473 - 440 - 393 - 362 - 356 - 333 - 360 - 347 - 280 - 229 - 184 - 221 - 205 - 171

TAMESIDE 454 - 486 - 526 - 545 - 576 - 555 - 539 - 500 - 456 - 451 - 403 - 433 - 421 - 426 - 389 - 337 - 256 - 239 - 180

TRAFFORD 395 - 431 - 436 - 445 - 448 - 420 - 411 - 406 - 389 - 398 - 377 - 384 - 372 - 215 - 149 - 87 - 173 - 169 - 122

WIGAN 579 - 628 - 669 - 704 - 741 - 708 - 688 - 634 - 603 - 570 - 509 - 508 - 470 - 431 - 363 - 320 - 315 - 269 - 248
 
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Anybody who has had dealings with the delightful West Midlands police force will know on the whole they are the pits. This is their response after a second separate video surfaced of their officers issuing a fine and ordering a woman to leave a supermarket for not wearing a mask. After the first one was circulated they issued an apology and said they had made their officers aware of the law regarding face coverings. This reply proves they don't even know the law themselves, or have chosen to just ignore it.

 
Anybody who has had dealings with the delightful West Midlands police force will know on the whole they are the pits. This is their response after a second separate video surfaced of their officers issuing a fine and ordering a woman to leave a supermarket for not wearing a mask. After the first one was circulated they issued an apology and said they had made their officers aware of the law regarding face coverings. This reply proves they don't even know the law themselves, or have chosen to just ignore it.



They are on a hiding to absolute nothing. Can't do right for doing wrong.

Enforce the rules - people complain
Don't enforce the rules - people complain

A consequence of wishy washy rules and lack of leadership right to the top of government.
 
On the basis of this, they should absolutely not open up for Xmas - I know many will ignore the rules anyway - but we’re so close to the finish line , why cause a 3rd wave

People have a choice don't they?If they feel cramming into a pub for a meal, a drink and two more drinks then having to leave is a good idea in the present climate that's up to them. It doesn't sound like my idea of fun, not that I'll get the choice anyway being in tier three. As for families meeting up no legislation was ever going to stop that happening.
 
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