COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Tricky_Trev]

True but the post I replied too was saying the mortality rate was higher among the young and elderly and it doesn't seem to be the case that it is higher for the young. In fact it seems lower.

Yeah sorry, I realised that after. Only read yours and not the one you were replying to, so took it out of context, a bit like Der Spiegel :)

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Chief scientific adviser just on the tv asked whether we should be banning large gatherings like football as is being done on Italy.

he said he doesn’t believe they will advise that should be done in the uk.

when challenged he said, in an open air stadium of say 40,000 people if someone has coronavirus there is a low chance of infecting a lot of people .

he said if you start playing matches behind closed doors all people will do is go to the pub etc and watch the game from there. He said in enclosed places that same person with coronavirus has a much higher chance of infecting, albeit a fewer people due to the enclosed environment.

he reiterated that they expect the mortality rate to be 1% or under.

even if that was true, the issue is how most people get to the ground on buses/trains/trams even in cars together, so completely illogical conclusion.

Don't believe his figure either, it's not represented in current trajectories.

 

[marco]

so acording to some dude on sky were lokking at a 3 month period in cases of infection rising then flatten off for three weeks then a 3 month decrease until its gone. so acording to that we should be good around August/September

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

even if that was true, the issue is how most people get to the ground on buses/trains/trams even in cars together, so completely illogical conclusion.

Don't believe his figure either, it's not represented in current trajectories.

good point, they never raised that with him.

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

Not to characterize anyone in any particular way, but have we all lost our minds?

If you get sick, do the USUAL SELF QUARANTINE and stay home. Take care of yourself and exercise the normal cautions (wash hands a lot, use tissues to cough and sneeze and then throw them away in a hygienic manner, keep surfaces clean and as germ free as possible, etc...). If you get sicker, then seek medical care, making sure you accurately describe your symptoms and be tested for COVID-19.

They say 80% of people will have mild symptoms. In fact, we’ve had two cases down the street from me. One of them (the husband) was recently released from hospital, while the wife is still there. He was on the news today and said his symptoms were LESS SEVERE THAN THE REGULAR FLU! He is a 70 year old man, overweight, clearly leading a lower working class life...so a seemingly perfect bullseye for these respiratory viruses...so it’s hard to know who or how it levels some and barely affects others.

I read an interesting description of the manner in which it attacks people and the mechanism of destroying the lungs, by honeycombing them, scarring and hardening them, and then being unable to deal with fluid pooling in them and thus killing them via pneumonia.

Therefore, to me, it seems like the minute you start to have respiratory distress with flu like symptoms, then you get yourself off to the ER for a COVID-19 test!

All good stuff until you said go to ER for a test. Not sure what malarky you lot are running over there but over here the advice is to stay the hell away. Ring 111 and if they suspect you have it they'll either tell you where to go (as in which drive thru testing centre to visit) or the Hazmats will come and pick you up.

Benefits of a universal health system you see. Please spread the word over there.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

7 people ill in Bethlehem, quarantine. That's how it should be here.

 

[Chippy_boy]

500?, how bigs the garden?

40 feet. Seriously mate, unless/until have have bad flu, people have no idea just how ill you can be with it. I mean, people do die from it, don't they. i seriously hope that the symptoms are much more mild for most people.

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

https://reddit.app.link/LXqxF9n9C4

 

[west didsblue]

Seems that in spite of Trump giving himself top marks for his handling of the crisis, based on raw data the US has the highest death rate of all the most affected countries at 6% compared to an average of 3.4%. This could of course be due to the fact that people have to pay for their own tests over there and there are a lot more than the reported 233 cases, so either way the US is probably handling it a lot worse than many countries.

 

[waspish]

Not quite correct mate. The young are more or less fine and zero fatalities under ten years of age.

Thanks for putting me right.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

40 feet. Seriously mate, unless/until have have bad flu, people have no idea just how ill you can be with it. I mean, people do die from it, don't they. i seriously hope that the symptoms are much more mild for most people.

Yeah I know what you mean. Some people call a runny nose the flu, they’ve clearly never had a bad one!

 

[Scottyboi]

Seems that in spite of Trump giving himself top marks for his handling of the crisis, based on raw data the US has the highest death rate of all the most affected countries at 6% compared to an average of 3.4%. This could of course be due to the fact that people have to pay for their own tests over there and there are a lot more than the reported 233 cases, so either way the US is probably handling it a lot worse than many countries.

Tbf 8 of the deaths were because it got into a care home, distorts things slightly.

 

[SWP's back]

Thanks for putting me right.

No worries, I wouldn’t have been the pedant but obviously there’s a few people on here with youngsters and I didn’t want them worrying unnecessarily.

 

[Scottyboi]

Yeah I know what you mean. Some people call a runny nose the flu, they’ve clearly never had a bad one!

Last time I had the flu badly was my 18th birthday, was shivering and burning up on new years eve watching Spartacus just wishing the grim reaper would take me. Fuck the flu!

Also had it at 8 weeks old and the Dr told my dad I had menegitis, shit them up!

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

Seems that in spite of Trump giving himself top marks for his handling of the crisis, based on raw data the US has the highest death rate of all the most affected countries at 6% compared to an average of 3.4%. This could of course be due to the fact that people have to pay for their own tests over there and there are a lot more than the reported 233 cases, so either way the US is probably handling it a lot worse than many countries.

I think numbers are way too low to be making assumptions yet. A lot of cases are people who have travelled from affected regions, or contacts of these people. In the UK it was mentioned only 10 cases yet are unknown transmission. That said it won't surprise me if they end up with a higher CFR than other countries.

 

[west didsblue]

Tbf 8 of the deaths were because it got into a care home, distorts things slightly.

Agreed, but the main point is the probability that the problem is much bigger there due to under-reporting because of the cost of the tests to those that have them and the cost of being in hospital without adequate insurance.

 

[dozzie26]

Seems that in spite of Trump giving himself top marks for his handling of the crisis, based on raw data the US has the highest death rate of all the most affected countries at 6% compared to an average of 3.4%. This could of course be due to the fact that people have to pay for their own tests over there and there are a lot more than the reported 233 cases, so either way the US is probably handling it a lot worse than many countries.

Hardly the healthiest breed of people though are they mate? The average American has a few health problems.

 

[Gabriel]

People attending football matches have to queue to gain entry, climb the same stairs together, often touching the same railings, and use the same facilities (kiosks/toilet), where hygiene has never been optimal, and then you could be sat in front of someone coughing his head off and not have the option of moving elsewhere.

While children may not be generally affected in terms of mortality, they are presumably highly likely to catch the virus and then spread the symptoms, either elsewhere or in the home, which in turn raises the risk of older family members developing the virus and adding to the pressure on the NHS.

 

[cibaman]

even if that was true, the issue is how most people get to the ground on buses/trains/trams even in cars together, so completely illogical conclusion.

Don't believe his figure either, it's not represented in current trajectories.

Yes the biggest area of risk on Sunday would have been in the crush to get back to the underground and then on the train.

 

[lancs blue]

What's the obsession with people clearing the shelves of bog roll, it's a respiratory illness not fucking dysentery.