COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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From a Chinese report.

-1 person was infected by a fellow bus passenger at a distance of 4.5m
-Virus can linger in the air for 30+ minutes.
-Can last on surfaces for days at 37'c, 2-3 days on glass, fabric, metal, plastic or paper
-survive more than 5 days in bodily fluids and poop.

Still watching... more updates will be added as I watch.


I wanted to ‘like’ your post as he is the most coherent and impartial commentator on this, but having watched it I really don’t bloody like his findings at all!

Dislike for you
 
And torch their houses while theyre away?
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So far we've had comparisons on here with malaria, ebola, cancer, flu, RTAs and the common cold, none of which have any logic at all.
How about we have one with terrorism to complete the set.
Or maybe mass shootings.
I did flu and mass shootings yesterday. Get your own material.
 
For those who think not enough is being done and the world should go into shut down mode maybe just a little context.
Every day around 3,500 people die in road traffic accidents.
In total there are currently 4000 deaths attributed to COVID-19.

Where do you strike the balance? If there were 3500 deaths per day from COVID I would understand the idea of locking down movement but why is death by RTA ok then?

It's a virus which will never have the same death rate as things which carry a far greater risk that we accept. If it wasn't for the hype it would go unnoticed like the recent Ebola outbreak which killed about 2500 people but was not reported at all in the mainstream media.

And we do everything we can to prevent RTA and save their victims.
What has been said by many experts, included the one in this great interview

is that there's such a thing as a society risk, a general population risk. This virus has a low personal risk but a high society risk, and that's why it might be difficult for some to grasp the dangers of it. Society risk means that the virus can easily overwhelm the health system because it requires many to be hospitalised (even when not life threatening) and we don't have a specific cure nor a vaccine for it, and when the health system is overwhelmed things go south not just for coronavirus patients but for all patients. An overwhelmed health system can then cause problems for all parts of society, economy, jobs etc.

Uffa’s response above is excellent and I would only add the following question to (hopefully) demonstrate why this continually made equivalency is so problematic.

If you could go back in time and take steps that would significantly reduce the annual RTA deaths over the coming decades, wouldn’t you do that, especially if you knew that there was a significant chance RTA deaths would balloon to such an extent as to lead to the collapse of the transportation system (itself leading to many more indirect deaths and substantial damage to the economy)?

Or would you let the chance go because many people we’re dying in bicycle related accidents at the time, so why bother?
 
The video shows it but the quote misses out the last sentence.


To even say it though, why would he even mention it considering he’s the prime minister and people actually look to him. It may scare people

he’s a fucking Moron for saying it on live telly
 
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