COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[George Hannah]

I wonder who was Major of London when station staff numbers were decimated on the tube? Wasn’t Khan or Livingstone - it was some other bloke.

 

[M18CTID]

Pounds before people pure and simple and one can only hopes karma visits the twats that are enforcing all non essential workers to attend work under threat of no pay or worse at a time when the world should be pulling together.

The trouble is that there is quite an extensive list that comes under critical work sectors and although I don't know what industry the poster you replied to is in, it could be that his/her company is on that list. I work in oil and gas and was surprised that that is on the list too. It's not so bad for us as we're a small company of only 11 employees and we can all pretty much keep a safe distance from each other, but if you have a busy shop floor of 800 employees then it becomes really difficult.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I wonder who was Major of London when station staff numbers were decimated on the tube? Wasn’t Khan or Livingstone - it was some other bloke.

Couldn't say for certain, but likely. The mayor is the chairman of TFL, but I would think it's likely to be like Johnson and his advisers - Khan will be advised by the people who run TFL, and is the public face.

It's not a solvable problem though, with a clear answer.
More trains running (for less crowding) means more staff travelling and being exposed. Might make more people try to travel as well.
Some stations have closed, but if people need to travel, the neighbouring stations will be busier.

 

[Fame Monster]

Not sure how you could do that, as there aren't enough staff to do it.
If they're on the platform, the platform gets crowded.
If they're not on the platform, the foyer gets crowded.

Also, if you're in a more inner station, you'd never get on.

I’m pretty sure it’s not that difficult to solve. Maybe TFL don’t have the numbers but this is where you get the police/army or others involved or run a different number of services.

What we have at the minute is the worst case scenario pretty much, and will be used as ammunition for further shutdowns as the virus spreads.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Good old Jimmy adding to the confusion in a bid to show power. She is deliberately making her speeches before the PM every day. But it's her little piece of the pie and she can do as she wishes.

Off topic so apologies, but I was reading an interesting piece in The Grauniad earlier about the Alex Salmond business that indicates that he is going to be unleashing a shitstorm of retribution on her soon. I wouldnt be surprised if she was actually Witness A, but if not she certainly took the opportunity to launch a full out assault on him and his reputation when all that initially blew up which now looks false/malicious and it looks like he has evidence of it which he is going to make public. May be the end of her when the virus settles down, which few people outside of Scotland will be sorry about. Anyway, back on topic!

 

[Gabriel]

Horrible figures for deaths from Spain, again, but a drop in the number of new cases.

 

[nmc]

Couldn't say for certain, but likely. The mayor is the chairman of TFL, but I would think it's likely to be like Johnson and his advisers - Khan will be advised by the people who run TFL, and is the public face.

It's not a solvable problem though, with a clear answer.
More trains running (for less crowding) means more staff travelling and being exposed. Might make more people try to travel as well.
Some stations have closed, but if people need to travel, the neighbouring stations will be busier.

Most health workers and all NHS staff have ID cards - I wonder whether more appropriate restrictions on travel need to be introduced. Moreover, we should not be charging NHS staff to travel to work.

 

[SWP's back]

It just goes to show how shit government is when one branch of government, the armed forces, has a stockpile of NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) equipment that another branch, the NHS, could have used to protect it's staff till more patient friendly equipment was available.

Try and put a catheter in wearing an NBC suit.

 

[Coatigan]

UK government is just pretending they are closing things, only because there is a pressure on them to do so. They deliberately left numerous loopholes for little to change with these "new" rules. They're still up to herd immunity, but in disguise and in speed the public pressure let them.

What public pressure? Did you watch either speech, by Boris OR Sturgeon? they are very much putting the pressure on the public rather than the other way round.

I myself am not looking for anything sinister or devious in what is a highly complex and sensitive situation.

 

[M18CTID]

I wonder who was Mayor of London when station staff numbers were decimated on the tube? Wasn’t Khan or Livingstone - it was some other bloke.

I'm not sure it would make much difference when seeing some of those pics from this morning mate. London is clearly a huge problem and something needs to be done. Do all those people travelling to work on the tube this morning really need to be travelling or can some work from home? A guy at work has a daughter living and working in London and she was told to work from home weeks ago. Then again, despite that instruction she's still ironically contracted it in the meantime

 

[nmc]

Yes, very different personality types with different communication styles. Different people respond differently to each. google Myers-Brigg for one very popular theory which is used in many large institutions in Europe.

I’m Myers Briggs trained - a brilliant tool with millions profiled. I’m an ENTP ! I’m guessing Boris is an ESTJ.

 

[Coatigan]

They have said building sites in Scotland should close
.
https://www.building.co.uk/news/nicola-sturgeon-warns-building-sites-should-close/5105111.article

indeed, that was what i referred to earlier in my response. the effect of that is starting across sites.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I'm not sure it would make much difference when seeing some of those pics from this morning mate. London is clearly a huge problem and something needs to be done. Do all those people travelling to work on the tube this morning really need to be travelling or can some work from home? A guy at work has a daughter living and working in London and she was told to work from home weeks ago. Then again, despite that instruction she's still ironically contracted it in the meantime

That's the main question - it's not really known. I've seen pictures of major stations deserted in the rushhour as well, but not seen anything about whether the network suddenly empties at about 9 am.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

What public pressure? Did you watch either speech, by Boris OR Sturgeon? they are very much putting the pressure on the public rather than the other way round.

I myself am not looking for anything sinister or devious in what is a highly complex and sensitive situation.

I agree. Public and individual responsibility needs to be taken and we should be adult enough to heed advice rather than have restrictions put in place. We shouldnt need Stalin to be in charge to stick to rules.

 

[M18CTID]

That's the main question - it's not really known. I've seen pictures of major stations deserted in the rushhour as well, but not seen anything about whether the network suddenly empties at about 9 am.

If the pics are genuine, maybe staggered working hours could be brought in to ease the congestion?

 

[George Hannah]

Our local chemist has had its phone off the hook snce yesterday and has now closed its doors - you have to queue outside on the pavement and are let in one by one. You can imagine the results - everybody with a query has to turn up in person - chaos.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I’m pretty sure it’s not that difficult to solve. Maybe TFL don’t have the numbers but this is where you get the police/army or others involved or run a different number of services.

What we have at the minute is the worst case scenario pretty much, and will be used as ammunition for further shutdowns as the virus spreads.

It's not ideal, but you still need the drivers/trained staff to do things that would be necessary.

The police have enough to do, and the army are not a solution to running a train service.

 

[DRINKLEVEDRY]

The guy in the sky newsroom this morning doing his Alf Garnett impersonation said "and over to our correspondent in South Korea where there is a chink of light at the end of the tunnel".

 

[Mr Partridge]

Sods law that the more this virus has spread, the better the weather has got.

We've never needed rain like we do now. The kind of weather we were having a month ago would keep a lot of these selfish c**ts indoors.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

If the pics are genuine, maybe staggered working hours could be brought in to ease the congestion?

Yes, that would be the obvious thing, but possibly just difficult to arrange across multiple businesses. You'd end up having to find out where the people were travelling to first.