COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Phil1]

There are times when you despair of the human race. Just how stupid can people be?

They might have just been resting after their 10 mile walk/jog.

 

[jimharri]

They might have just been resting after their 10 mile walk/jog.

Yeah, they might.

 

[GornikDaze]

There are times when you despair of the human race. Just how stupid can people be?

They will be the first ones moaning when a relative dies because the NHS is swamped and can’t cope. Selfish ignorant ****s!!!

 

[Vic]

What would be the point of buying and rolling out unreliable tests when in a few weeks if reliable one are available we have to do it all again.

How unreliable would it have to be to make this case study worthless?
https://www.technologyreview.com/20...mmune-to-covid-19-in-one-town-in-germany/amp/

 

[sir baconface]

Fed up of being stuck at home, dining on stats, graphs, pessimism and point scoring? The link below takes you to the National Gardens Scheme website, from where you can do virtual tours of some spectacular gardens. Not a cyclist, runner or noisy family in sight!

Enjoy.
https://ngs.org.uk/virtual-garden-visits/

 

[BlueAnorak]

Had a chat with by brother yesterday and he lives I Moston.

For those people who know the area there is a kids play area on Attleboro Road and on the corner of Oscar st and he said over the last few days that area is just full not of kids but entire families who are smoking and drinking with music blasting out.

The police go round and dispurse them but around an hour later they are back out doing exactly the same thing.

What is wrong with some people?

What indeed.
I suspect; however, that population scientists and statisticians are counting on this happening. It would allow the virus to spread and burn itself out amongst sub populations without involving those at risk
As far as I can work out that if this doesn't happen then second and subsequent spikes in the virus will be worse. Indeed there are quite a few comment articles in the press that indicate concern that we are locking down too well for this exact reason: Slug the virus too much now and 2nd or 3rd waves will be worse.

 

[Marvin]

Personally I think they are showing it is possible. They are already back to functioning pretty normally.

The bigger questions for me are (a) do we have the mentality across the public as a whole to knuckle down to the extent needed. Activities this weekend might indicate that. And (b) have we simply let it get too far? If there are millions of people infected already, is it actually possible to get enough of the genie back in the bottle? Since we don't actually know how many are infected, that's rather difficult to judge. Time will tell I guess.

The US had the biggest outbreak in New York and whittled it down through isolation and mass testing. South Korea had similar in Daegu. It's not quite back in the bottle but I don't think the western world will make the same mistake again. Surveillance testing should keep it in the bottle once it is there. How though do you put it back in the bottle in India or Iran? Iran is difficult to interpret. The data is questionable but it has not been overwhelmed.

 

[Blue Hefner]

The replies to this are quite something......

 

[Marvin]

What indeed.
I suspect; however, that population scientists and statisticians are counting on this happening. It would allow the virus to spread and burn itself out amongst sub populations without involving those at risk
As far as I can work out that if this doesn't happen then second and subsequent spikes in the virus will be worse. Indeed there are quite a few comment articles in the press that indicate concern that we are locking down too well for this exact reason: Slug the virus too much now and 2nd or 3rd waves will be worse.

That was the rationale behind mass immunity but this is 2020 not 1918. There is no need for a controlled mass infection. Only the most reactionary elitist politicians could argue for that approach.

The US, China and Germany are leading nations on their continents. None are going to allow this virus back.

 

[Vic]

There are times when you despair of the human race. Just how stupid can people be?

Realistically (and relative to going shopping) a couple sunbathing in a park is not stupid or risky (depending how they get there). The problem is that if they are not stopped they will be joined by many others (as with let's drive to a beauty spot for our exercise). I knew I could drive a couple of miles from home to a footpath that I've never seen anyone else use, but of course now it could be a crowded narrow thoroughfare.

 

[George Hannah]

That was the rationale behind mass immunity but this is 2020 not 1918. There is no need for a controlled mass infection. Only the most reactionary elitist politicians could argue for that approach.

The US, China and Germany are leading nations on their continents. None are going to allow this virus back.

Germany? Excuse me.

 

[BlueAnorak]

The replies to this are quite something......

The fire is currently here, so supplies are short.
The fire will move on, indeed, we'll probably be sending supplies back to them in a months time.

 

[SB Blue]

Good to see Boris is well enough to be taking short walks. Have to wonder whether the death count would reduce if everybody got the same early opportunity for hospital treatment as soon as their symptoms worsen during isolation.

I think early treatment capability is a factor in the nightingale hospitals and extra CPAP/ ventilators they have ordered with the U.K. manufacturers. They must still be learning a lot about the most effective treatment regime too?

I expect lockdown restrictions will be lifted slowly from late May/ early June when we’ll have the extra capability in place and have more data on how widespread this is based on testing.

 

[jimharri]

Realistically (and relative to going shopping) a couple sunbathing in a park is not stupid or risky (depending how they get there). The problem is that if they are not stopped they will be joined by many others (as with let's drive to a beauty spot for our exercise). I knew I could drive a couple of miles from home to a footpath that I've never seen anyone else use, but of course now it could be a crowded narrow thoroughfare.

Yes, it is stupid, given the current situation. What part of "stay at home" do they not understand? They need to start thinking of others; we're all making sacrifices for the greater good. Also, sunbathing or having a picnic is not "essential" activity, shopping (depending on what you're buying) is.

 

[BlueAnorak]

That was the rationale behind mass immunity but this is 2020 not 1918. There is no need for a controlled mass infection. Only the most reactionary elitist politicians could argue for that approach.

The US, China and Germany are leading nations on their continents. None are going to allow this virus back.

For sure but there is a new twist.
The more the virus spreads now the less likely it will require a return to lock down in the future. Lockdowns have major economic consequences.

 

[Marvin]

Germany? Excuse me.

Germany is the most advanced society on the European continent unless you can come up with an alternative

 

[squirtyflower]

I do know of a few (not on here) who are lapping up the death count so they can stick it to the Tories - social media awash with it.

We’d have it on here as well if we didn’t keep moving to the political thread

 

[jimharri]

Well done, fella. Well done.

 

[Blue Hefner]

The fire is currently here, so supplies are short.
The fire will move on, indeed, we'll probably be sending supplies back to them in a months time.

I'm sure we will. Global cooperation is necessary

That doesn't take away from the nutters/bots commenting below the tweet though. When some people look at Turkey sending supplies is their first genuine thought 'I hope there are no immigrants on that plane'. Really?

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

it seems to me that the figures are being manipulated, it seems the actual deaths yesterday were lower than the reported deaths and funnily enough the day before a hot Easter weekend they announce more deaths from previous weeks . May be that is to ram home the message at this important time

However it really cannot be that difficult for the government to now to produce a graph showing the actual deaths on the actual days so we can see the real trends and the actual deaths on the actual days .

It is quite difficult actually. Each hospital doesn’t have one person collating the times of death of everyone, seeing if the patient had Covid, informing next of kin, reporting their figure to their NHS trust etc hence the lag and hence why the figures are skewed. Some deaths reported this week were from March.