COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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twosips said:
Regardless of that, there would be excess deaths in the way there is now. There simply wasn't. That's the bit that goes against this idea. Unless there's an explanation for why it wasn't killing people then, but decided to start doing it now, then it doesn't add up.
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Does Viral load make a difference to Death rate?

More of the population infected higher the Viral load people are getting causing higher death rate
 
SilverFox2 said:
Well my daughter who has rare form of arthritis was taking a drug which she self injects daily when she contracted CV. She had all the symptoms. except breathing problems so was treated ftom hospital to her home via 2 hourly apart telephone calls. She recovered without the need to be ventilated.
I understand her drug was normally a cancer drug and was stopped during her illness. Her joints did not give her problems during CV attack so possibly it sufficient in her system to help with CV immune system problem.?
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Fucks knows, its all a bit double dutch, the advice they give out. I am just going to stay at home and nit take any chances.

Hope your daughter is ok, arthiritis is horrible. I get inflammation of my knees and elbows as a side effect of my Crohns. Thats bad enough as it is, it must be terrible to suffer from fully blown arthritis. These dieases really do ruin lives and because you can not seen them, no one realises how bad they, till they get one. Hope she is ok anyway fella.
 
Nightmare Walking said:
Fucks knows, its all a bit double dutch, the advice they give out. I am just going to stay at home and nit take any chances.

Hope your daughter is ok, arthiritis is horrible. I get inflammation of my knees and elbows as a side effect of my Crohns. Thats bad enough as it is, it must be terrible to suffer from fully blown arthritis. These dieases really do ruin lives and because you can not seen them, no one realises how bad they, till they get one. Hope she is ok anyway fella.
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apt username then.
 
I fear America is on the verge of something very bad indeed.

It is a nation that hasn't experienced a direct threat to its own shores or people for an eternity.

Those same people are now its biggest threat - countries within countries - an uneasy over-confidence that they can do it their way and to bugger with the consequences.

And when that doesn't work, a war always makes money and convenient dog whistles.

It's a joke such an amazing country gets to choose between Trump and Biden.

It is a time for leadership, we even have it in Boris.

I'd have been much more optimistic that America can muck in if it were Obama at the tiller.
 
For those interested heres the framework for options, and projections for lifting lockdown in Scotland. Suggesting another 3 weeks though some bits may be lifted earlier.

https://www.gov.scot/binaries/content/documents/govscot/publications/advice-and-guidance/2020/05/coronavirus-covid-19-framework-decision-making-further-information/documents/coronavirus-covid-19-framework-decision-making-further-information/coronavirus-covid-19-framework-decision-making-further-information/govscot:document/coronavirus-covid-19-framework-decision-making-further-information.pdf

Skimming through looks like the next review will be 28th May, but they are looking at options for some slight changes before the 28th.
 
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twosips said:
Regardless of that, there would be excess deaths in the way there is now. There simply wasn't. That's the bit that goes against this idea. Unless there's an explanation for why it wasn't killing people then, but decided to start doing it now, then it doesn't add up.
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I don’t understand this argument. I thought flu cases fluctuated substantially from year to year, meaning there is no accurate “expected” number of deaths in any particular month; just comparison against a rolling average. In that case, if flu numbers were below par, would “excess deaths” be impacted by a moderate number of misdiagnosed CV-19 cases?

Genuine observation, by the way. Not trying to advance any particular viewpoint and it may be I’m the one misinterpreting things.
 
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