COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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But then why didn't the numbers explode in Feb? We saw a 100x increase in deaths between mid and end of March - in circa 2 weeks. That's what happens with exponential growth when numbers are doubling every three or four days, as they were.

So if we had 100 die in Jan, we'd have seen 10,000 dead by mid Feb and 100,000 by end of Feb (without a lockdown in Feb). i.e. there cannot have been 10,000 infected in Jan. Widespread infection in Jan is not possible.

How do we know the doubling time was 3 days?

The more you ramp up testing the more it would appear the virus is doubling.

Example

1st day of testing 1000 tests 10 infected

7th day of testing 2000 tests 40 infected

The figures would have you believe the virus has doubled every 3 days..... in reality if 1000 tests had been carried on day 7 u may only have found 20 people infected, giving a doubling rate of 6 days
 
Update on point 2:
The risk of catching Covid is 30 times higher at 1 metre apart rather than 2 meters apart. For example the following risks are equivalent:
- Two metres apart for 1 minute; AND
- One metre apart for 6 SECONDS.

Public transport can't be restarted without people wearing face masks and really when you go shopping you should wear one too.

Doesn’t that make it 10x higher?

I'm only quoting what Sir Patrick Vallence said.
In my head, to be 30 times higher the 2nd calculation should be 1 meter for FOUR seconds 2×60/(1×4) = 30.
To be lower at 6 seconds it would imply that droplet density is lower at 1 metre than it is at 2 metres.
 
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How do we know the doubling time was 3 days?

The more you ramp up testing the more it would appear the virus is doubling.

Example

1st day of testing 1000 tests 10 infected

7th day of testing 2000 tests 40 infected

The figures would have you believe the virus has doubled every 3 days..... in reality if 1000 tests had been carried on day 7 u may only have found 20 people infected, giving a doubling rate of 6 days

Scientists modelled it with all the data available.

at the start with no controls it was about 3 days doubling, 5 days soon after controls start.

it was discussed extensively in this thread to start with.

Simplest thing, if you think its been around since Dec/Jan, Try explaining why we got this excess death spike at the end of march and why it didn't happen sooner.

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/covid-19-—-coronavirus.344314/page-3832#post-12635839
 
so when we do excess deaths comparison then you accept that the excess might not all be due to Covid but coincidentally this bad flu season as well ?
Sure, why wouldn't I? I've no idea whether we are having a bad flu season, but if we are then those numbers will be in there. What of it?
 
How do we know the doubling time was 3 days?

The more you ramp up testing the more it would appear the virus is doubling.

Example

1st day of testing 1000 tests 10 infected

7th day of testing 2000 tests 40 infected

The figures would have you believe the virus has doubled every 3 days..... in reality if 1000 tests had been carried on day 7 u may only have found 20 people infected, giving a doubling rate of 6 days
Deaths were doubling every 3 or 4 days. I didn't say anything about infections. I countered the suggestion that perhaps we had 100 dead in Jan with the comment that we'd have had 10,000 dead by mid Feb. We didn't. Ergo, we didn't have 100 COVID deaths in Jan. Not possible.
 
I'm only quoting what Sir Patrick Vallence said.
In my head, to be 30 times higher the 2nd calculation should be 1 meter for FOUR seconds 2×60/(1×4) = 30.

i understand the distancing , totally get you need to maintain distance in case the other person coughs , sneezes or gobs on you . Or hugging and touching.

however i think there are many people who now think that the virus can jump from one person to another So if walking down the pavement and someone is walking towards them and has the virus, That somehow the virus can see them coming and think oh yummy I am going to jump into that person and infect them?
 
429 dead - less than half of last Monday - it is coming down quite quickly now. Tragic but i was expecting north of 500 today.
 
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