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are 'out of hospital' deaths mostly care homes do we know? or is it all sorts or sources?

It is all but care homes (though falling) seem to still be the majority. Overall ooh deaths are down but they are seeming to be contributing more now to the daily total than they were.
 
Regional scoreboard for last two days -

London + 183 (two previous days added were 182 - ie 117, then 65) So nothing odd here.

West MIdlands + 273 (two previous days were 204 - ie 127, then 77) Some rise but not big.

Yorks & Humber + 353 ( two previous days were 200 - ie 73, then 127)

So huge rise over the two days for Yorks - BUT, as you might expect, oh dear North West.

North West + 589 - a whole UK wide daily figure of just a week or two ago in the NW over two days.

For comparison the previous 2 days were 512, including that record 311 four days ago.

So it looks like the lockdown areas in the NW and Yorks have been the main drivers of the two 1000 _+ totals,

Bit no idea if yesterday is up or down or if either day beat that 311 total. Either way nt good locally.
 
also, where have the data for cases by upper and lower tier local authority gone?

on here when you download it gives UK whole only

they used to be on a dashboard that i cant find anymore
 
Okay the GM scoreboard is bad in some places but not catastrophic with one exception. A town heading fast into full closure I fear.

The total over the two days is 368 - so if split evenly would be 184 a day,

That is high but would not be a record. We had 209 from Saturday. But of course it could be higher yesterday than today or vice versa so one might be really good and the other really bad - just not sure which way round!
 
Remember in this GM scoreboad these are TWO DAY numbers if comparing with the past single day numbers for a town.

The number given in brackets is Monday's ONE DAY number)

Bolton 28 (was 8) - 283 past month. 79 past week. 36 past 3 days (was 29). Pop score 737

Bury 12 (was 3) - 141 past month. 46 past week. 15 past 3 days (was 13). Pop score 745

Manchester 77 (was 34) - 712 past month. 230 past week. 111 past 3 days (was 90). Pop score 656

Oldham 109 (was 30) - 635 past month. 260 past week (New record). 139 past 3 days (new record)(was 87) Pop score 1054 - huge rise in last two days and only just behind Blackburn at number 3 in the UK)

Rochdale 32 (was 17) - 417 past month. 97 past week (as you see one third of neighbour Oldham). 49 past 3 days (was 44). Pop score 908 - joined the 900 club as first one after Oldham to do so in GM.

Salford 36 (was 5) - 275 past month. 81 past week. 41 past 3 days (was 29). Pop score 616. Still top in GM but looking at risk of being caught over coming week or two.

Stockport 17 (was 5) - 235 past month. 78 past week. 22 past 3 days (was 38) Signs of imrovement. Pop score 637.

Tameside 23 (was 2) - 227 past month. 89 past week. 25 past 3 days (was 38) Pop score 771

Trafford 24 (was 7) - 158 past 2 weeks. 67 past week. 31 past 3 days (was 25) Pop score 644

Wigan 10 (was 3) - 103 past month. Last GM place to have a last month score of under 100 now gone too.
29 past week. 13 past 3 days (was 10). Still top in all but Pop score - which is 677.

As you see Oldham is now a national concerm not just a GM one.
 
also, where have the data for cases by upper and lower tier local authority gone?

on here when you download it gives UK whole only

they used to be on a dashboard that i cant find anymore


They are on the new site if you access it directly under 'cases' in 'United KIngdom' sub divisions to access Nations. Region. Upper Tier LA Lower Tier LA.
 
Other watch towns in the UK scores:

Bradford added 103 over last two days (previous 2 days was 102) Pop score 1027. Oldhamhasgone ahead of here in recent days.

Leicester 99 over last 2 days (previous 2 days was 72). Pop score 1504 - first UK location to join 1500 club.

Blackburn & Darwen 47 over last 2 days (previous 2 days was 36) Pop score 1073. Second only to Leicester but Oldham is on the way to taking over.
 
BBC just notes that the government have decided to bring the England death figures in line with other nations and not count as a Covid death one with no direct link to it.

It seems over 5000 cases will disappear off the current total of 46,706.
 
They are on the new site if you access it directly under 'cases' in 'United KIngdom' sub divisions to access Nations. Region. Upper Tier LA Lower Tier LA.

thanks i saw that, but when you download the time series, it's only ever UK for some reason
 
The hospital data has at last updated on the website after their issues.

Northern Ireland has 9 in hospital - up from 4 a week ago. As noted earlier new cases hae risen fast here. Relatively.

Wales has happily seen the number of ICU ventilator patients fall from 7 to6 in past week.

And patients in hospital have fallen too from 115 a week ago with drops every day to 78 yesterday.
 
Scotland as we heard today were down to 265 in hospital and still 3 on ICU ventilators.

England meanwhile is unfortunately starting to see a trend in rising ventilator patients. This is possibly the most serious news in recent weeks.

Since 8 August they have risen every day from 55 - as follows 55, 56, 60, 63 to 68 today.

A 25% rise in these numbers in those days this data has oddly not turnedup on the web site (I noted that happening on here) is by far the biggest change in these numbers in a while.

They do go up and down but a steady rise day to day is not the pattern we have seen in months.
 
BBC just notes that the government have decided to bring the England death figures in line with other nations and not count as a Covid death one with no direct link to it.

It seems over 5000 cases will disappear off the current total of 46,706.
Isn't it only deaths within 28 days of the positive test that now count i.e. not a 'direct link issue.
 
Whilst we might fear this is the start of a rise in deaths coming over the next week or two we need to watch it carefully but there is better nrews on the inmpatients in England.

As you recall these were down to 545 four days ago before hospital data disappeared off the site beyond then and then we had the technical issue not allowing updates yesterday.

They rose to 647 on 10 August but - as I suggested they might the other day - fell on the next two days - including from 606 yesterday to 583 today.

So not quite back to where they were last week. But falling.
 
Isn't it only deaths within 28 days of the positive test that now count i.e. not a 'direct link issue.

They are standardising it to that I think but the primary reason is to stop any person who ever tested positive for Covid being linked as a Covid death even if they die 50 years from now after falling off a cliff. Seemingly that was not as absurd as it would appear to anyone with common sense. Though how often it happened is another matter.

England was out of step with the other home nations so it was easy to justify doing this.
 
So week on week UK ventilator patients are up 5 in the past week to 78. All increases being in England.

But patient numbers have indeed stabilisedat just 926 today.

So unnoticed bythe media we do have less than 1000 people in hospital in UK with Covid for the first time since the dark days of March.
 
They are standardising it to that I think but the primary reason is to stop any person who ever tested positive for Covid being linked as a Covid death even if they die 50 years from now after falling off a cliff. Seemingly that was not as absurd as it would appear to anyone with common sense. Though how often it happened is another matter.

England was out of step with the other home nations so it was easy to justify doing this.
I don't know how the deaths in England are counted .
In Scotland it is every death with a positive test within 28 days that is automatically counted and appears on the daily updates.
On top of this every death with covid on the death certificate is added and is why the figures of the weekly update and daily do not match.
Realistically the daily figure probably gives a reasonable estimate of the overall recent progress but excess deaths is probably the best approximation of how many have died int he country as a result of covid.
 
So week on week UK ventilator patients are up 5 in the past week to 78. All increases being in England.

But patient numbers have indeed stabilisedat just 926 today.

So unnoticed bythe media we do have less than 1000 people in hospital in UK with Covid for the first time since the dark days of March.

Seems the only positive news from today HP. Cases rising everywhere throughout Europe, including here in the UK and particular ICU patients rising quite a bit is really bad news. Thanks again for your info.
 
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