Covid and travel discussion

What about being in a tin can in the sky with 300 strangers ?

Where everyone on board will be either double jabbed, or had to produce a negative PCR test before boarding....or both.
And are wearing a mask for the duration.

I'd suggest to do some research into the air circulation on a plane and how it works.

It's also quite laughable to think every plane is operating at capacity. Some will, but most won't.
Very common to have a row to yourself at the moment.
 
Where everyone on board will be either double jabbed, or had to produce a negative PCR test before boarding....or both.
And are wearing a mask for the duration.

I'd suggest to do some research into the air circulation on a plane and how it works.

It's also quite laughable to think every plane is operating at capacity. Some will, but most won't.
Very common to have a row to yourself at the moment.
he didnt say any of that, he had a weak arguement
 
I just thought he was being a hypocrite and saying going to the pub would have killed people but happy to go in a plane for hours
That’s not being a hypocrite - the government should not have opened indoor hospitality - OR HOLIDAY FLIGHTS - until every adult has been offered their first jab. I won’t be doing either until that is the case.
 
Well of course it’s a risk. I hate flying anyway, but I do it because it gives me amazing holidays and memories. However filter system plus everybody wearing a mask is much safer than eating/drinking packed inside with people without masks.

Going out for a drink or something to eat is not worth the risk because the rewards are so small.
FT wont let me post their story however

The school’s Aviation Public Health Initiative says that modern planes’ ventilation systems, with their high efficiency particulate air (Hepa) filters, remove more than 99.97 per cent of the nasty stuff, including bacteria and viruses. Its report, published in October, says the result is cleaner air than in our offices or shopping centres.
 
FT wont let me post their story however

The school’s Aviation Public Health Initiative says that modern planes’ ventilation systems, with their high efficiency particulate air (Hepa) filters, remove more than 99.97 per cent of the nasty stuff, including bacteria and viruses. Its report, published in October, says the result is cleaner air than in our offices or shopping centres.

If you post the headline of FT articles, they will usually be accessible via Google search for anyone interested in reading.
 
You jumped in , i didnt ask for your opinion tbf

You quoted his post where he replied to me, so it's hardly me jumping in.

I get it, you want everyone to stay put, and will ask rhetorical questions about planes to try and spin it in your favour.

But it's lazy.

I get on a plane right now; depending on the destination, I'll have to be either double vaxxed, or take a PCR test before travel, or possibly both.

In flight, I'll have to wear my mask for the duration. I'll also have to wear my mask before and after.

The above will apply to every single person sat on said plane, regardless of if its operating at 10% or 100% capacity (and many flights are closer to the former than latter these days)

I walk into a pub right now, particularly during the Euros, what am I faced with?
The same unknown people I'd be faced with on a flight, but I won't have any idea of vaccination status, if they'd been recently tested. You're also at the mercy of how strictly the pubs is enforcing the rules (not very strict at a lot of places by all accounts)
I'd likely be surrounded by many different people for many hours depending on how long I'd be there for.
And with the football being broadcast, lots of singing and shouting, with mask wearing almost non-existent because people are always drinking.

I ask you; which is a safer environment?

I can only assume that the minority of people instructing everyone to holiday at home are also instructing everyone to eat and drink at home, otherwise you'd be a massive hypocrite right?
 
You quoted his post where he replied to me, so it's hardly me jumping in.

I get it, you want everyone to stay put, and will ask rhetorical questions about planes to try and spin it in your favour.

But it's lazy.

I get on a plane right now; depending on the destination, I'll have to be either double vaxxed, or take a PCR test before travel, or possibly both.

In flight, I'll have to wear my mask for the duration. I'll also have to wear my mask before and after.

The above will apply to every single person sat on said plane, regardless of if its operating at 10% or 100% capacity (and many flights are closer to the former than latter these days)

I walk into a pub right now, particularly during the Euros, what am I faced with?
The same unknown people I'd be faced with on a flight, but I won't have any idea of vaccination status, if they'd been recently tested. You're also at the mercy of how strictly the pubs is enforcing the rules (not very strict at a lot of places by all accounts)
I'd likely be surrounded by many different people for many hours depending on how long I'd be there for.
And with the football being broadcast, lots of singing and shouting, with mask wearing almost non-existent because people are always drinking.

I ask you; which is a safer environment?

I can only assume that the minority of people instructing everyone to holiday at home are also instructing everyone to eat and drink at home, otherwise you'd be a massive hypocrite right?
Nobody is instructing anyone to do anything , aside from him saying people who go to the pub are killing people and to have a long hard look at themselves
 
You quoted his post where he replied to me, so it's hardly me jumping in.

I get it, you want everyone to stay put, and will ask rhetorical questions about planes to try and spin it in your favour.

But it's lazy.

I get on a plane right now; depending on the destination, I'll have to be either double vaxxed, or take a PCR test before travel, or possibly both.

In flight, I'll have to wear my mask for the duration. I'll also have to wear my mask before and after.

The above will apply to every single person sat on said plane, regardless of if its operating at 10% or 100% capacity (and many flights are closer to the former than latter these days)

I walk into a pub right now, particularly during the Euros, what am I faced with?
The same unknown people I'd be faced with on a flight, but I won't have any idea of vaccination status, if they'd been recently tested. You're also at the mercy of how strictly the pubs is enforcing the rules (not very strict at a lot of places by all accounts)
I'd likely be surrounded by many different people for many hours depending on how long I'd be there for.
And with the football being broadcast, lots of singing and shouting, with mask wearing almost non-existent because people are always drinking.

I ask you; which is a safer environment?

I can only assume that the minority of people instructing everyone to holiday at home are also instructing everyone to eat and drink at home, otherwise you'd be a massive hypocrite right?
It’s all theatre and show.

matt handjob says one thing, fucks another.

Cummings didn’t give a shit about the rules yet he’s now leaking WhatsApp messages making out boris stopped him from implementing New Zealand like policies.

piers Morgan lectures the uk public yet is seen and every event going (eg. Epsom derby in a box with syco)
 

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