Covid and travel discussion

mac said:
Probably members of the cabinet need to buy their holiday homes Great isn't it, you can't even buy a fucking pair of grundies from Tesco, as if I have shat myself on my way home from work it isn't an essential item.
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Is this a regular occurrence? If so, maybe it's time to consider bringing a spare pair or 2 when leaving the house in the morning?
 
Pablo1 said:
That maybe so but there's n awful lot of people, rightly or wrongly, live for their trips abroad. I'm sure they are aware of the beautiful places on their own doorstep but choose to go further afield.
I'm all for banging the drum for the country you reside in but there's a reason the tourist industry for foreign travel is worth the hundreds of billions a year that it is.
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Well said, Pablo. Whilst Devon and Cornwall have their charms, they have nothing to rival the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona or the Plaza de Espana in Seville.
 
Whilst there is plenty I could say on the UK vs international holiday argument (there really shouldn't be an argument cos people can do what they want within the rule of law and the disdain shown towards people not interested in a domestic holiday is unnecessary), let's not forget that international travel does indeed support UK business.
 
Is anyone else wondering *when* to book any holidays rather than where?

Worse case scenario says you should book asap when we come out of restrictions but then of course the weather might not be great in May.

I've gone for the traditionally safe fortnight off in July which I'm 99% will be fine. But it's the weeks off later in the year like September, October etc that I'm wondering if it's worth bring them forward and taking them in the summer instead.
 
Indigo Prime said:
Creamfields, ParkLife etc are all going ahead which will mean tens of thousands of people traveling here from abroad. So that is acceptable?
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Summerbuzz said:
Everything that's under restriction has risks attached to it.

The UK can allow foreign travel but we'd have to reduce risks elsewhere.

People who don't travel abroad would end up 'paying' by undergoing the restrictions neccessary to manage the overall risk.

And some other industry would pay the cost.

Bottom line is, Foreign Travel will pose a high risk.

Reasoning is that the SA variant doesn't respond to the AZ vaccine. Which is currently widespread accross Europe and elsewhere.

One holiday maker picks it up, then spends hours in recycled air with hundreds of other Brits on the way home. Dozens of people going back into work ready to transmit the variant we can't cope with.

That's far more serious than another round of Kent from people standing at the bar.
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Does the AZ vaccine not work at all against the SA strain?

If we that is correct, it’s inevitable we will get it in big numbers over here eventually.
 
kaz7 said:
I will give you that one
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I was only jesting Karen. You're right of course that there are some beautiful places in the UK and some stunning beaches too (if only it was a bit bloody warmer!) I mean, I could have posted this one:
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Beautiful emerald green waters, so Thailand perhaps? No, Scotland. Unfortunately the picture doesn't tell you it's like minus 5C.
 
crooky said:
Is anyone else wondering *when* to book any holidays rather than where?

Worse case scenario says you should book asap when we come out of restrictions but then of course the weather might not be great in May.

I've gone for the traditionally safe fortnight off in July which I'm 99% will be fine. But it's the weeks off later in the year like September, October etc that I'm wondering if it's worth bring them forward and taking them in the summer instead.
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The problem is that it is and will likely remain a fluid situation. even if you book last minute you could be caught out by a rule change on either travel or quarantine while you are away as happened to many last year. Employers seem to be wiseing up to this and making it clear that if you go away then any subsequent quarantine period is very much unpaid and at your own expense. We're probably just going to go somewhere crap like Wales or Scotland this year to spend 10 days or so in a tent and shitting in a bucket.
 
Pablo1 said:
That maybe so but there's n awful lot of people, rightly or wrongly, live for their trips abroad. I'm sure they are aware of the beautiful places on their own doorstep but choose to go further afield.
I'm all for banging the drum for the country you reside in but there's a reason the tourist industry for foreign travel is worth the hundreds of billions a year that it is.
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There is and I love going abroad, seeing new things, different ways of living, architecture etc.

But we are living in different times right now and if the experts think this is a necessary to protect lives then I dont think its too much of a hardship. You never know it might prove to be a positive and people start to appreciate what they have on their own doorstep.
 
franksinatra said:
There is and I love going abroad, seeing new things, different ways of living, architecture etc.

But we are living in different times right now and if the experts think this is a necessary to protect lives then I dont think its too much of a hardship. You never know it might prove to be a positive and people start to appreciate what they have on their own doorstep.
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Make no mistake, the second the green light is given for travel abroad the airports will be rammed with folk desperate to fly away.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I've always been of the opinion that for any given law to be effective you need at least one of the following to be true:

1. Very high chances of being caught, or
2. Very strong punishments if caught.

Providing you have 1 or 2 (or both), many people will be put off from doing it. The £5,000 threat will deter many, which presumably is the desired effect.

I'd also say that "the law is an ass" is, as a line, overplayed. I've know a few magistrates over the years and most of them would have no hesitation in saying (in terms) "you're taking the piss mate, here's a £5,000 fine".
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Maybe so

I think something will come of this in early April. I hope they don't divide people even more by being seen to allow people to visit second homes. I dunno. Just feeling cooped up I suppose.
 
Pablo1 said:
Make no mistake, the second the green light is given for travel abroad the airports will be rammed with folk desperate to fly away.
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Oh yes and I will probably be one of them also, but still Im looking on it as an opportunity to see more of Scotland (drive the NC500) and revisit parts of Wales from childhood holidays. Its an inconvenience but not a particular hardship.
 
Let's face it, it's not about the quality of the resorts or scenery in the UK, it's all about the reliability of the bloody weather.
 
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