urban genie
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Biggest political, ideologicl and economic myth peddled proved countless times to be bollocks
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creating growth only not Investment is better for a country and achieves greater economic equality
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That's a Saturday night Spoons thread title.Biggest political, ideologicl and economic myth peddled proved countless times to be bollocks
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urban genie
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don't drink in spoons so hardlyThat's a Saturday night Spoons thread title.
was after reading the observer article last night while at home about focussing on growth and tightening belts seems to be the next governments stratergy, even though lack of investment and austerity ideas has led us to the sorry state we are in
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Depressing isn't it. Anything will be an improvement on what we have now but at its core the next 'labour' govt is essentially promising the same austerity package as Cameron and Osbourne. Tbf we are in such a shit state that I'm not sure there is the fiscal wiggle room to either cut taxes or increase spending significantly. I think one term of starmer will be followed by a Tory govt promising to shift the income tax bands up (a lot of fairly ordinary earners are now in the 40% band due to inflation).don't drink in spoons so hardly
was after reading the observer article last night while at home about focussing on growth and tightening belts seems to be the next governments stratergy, even though lack of investment and aisterity ideas has led us to the sorry state we are in
The Future’s Blue!
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There is no investment because we don’t have an industrial plan. The government has hinted at various growth areas such as tech, green, etc, but hasn’t put anything into it, leaving other countries to take the initiative, once again, leaving the UK behind.don't drink in spoons so hardly
was after reading the observer article last night while at home about focussing on growth and tightening belts seems to be the next governments stratergy, even though lack of investment and aisterity ideas has led us to the sorry state we are in
This is where I have a massive issue with the Tories, if there wasn’t enough area, that they sold people a dream and have not delivered a single thing, leaving our children’s future in tatters.
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We support a team that is a working demonstration of the value of investment, properly applied.
Imagine if instead, Sheikh Mansour had thought the way forward was to cut real wages for all players and staff while charging more for tickets and spending the absolute minimum on stadium upkeep.
Where would we be?
Our problem is that our 'leaders' simply do not have the imagination. Nor, in fairness, do our voters, most of whom have been conditioned to believe that a sovereign state with a fiat currency needs to be run like a private household or a corner shop.
Imagine if instead, Sheikh Mansour had thought the way forward was to cut real wages for all players and staff while charging more for tickets and spending the absolute minimum on stadium upkeep.
Where would we be?
Our problem is that our 'leaders' simply do not have the imagination. Nor, in fairness, do our voters, most of whom have been conditioned to believe that a sovereign state with a fiat currency needs to be run like a private household or a corner shop.
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Give everyone the pay rise we need, let business take the hit for a few years, whilst we go out and spend the new money we have - increasing growth and getting the country back on its feet.
They'll never tell us that, they always tell us that we have to go poor to fix the economy. I suspect that's bollocks mainly because its is the rich, the media owners, the govn who tell us that.
They'll never tell us that, they always tell us that we have to go poor to fix the economy. I suspect that's bollocks mainly because its is the rich, the media owners, the govn who tell us that.
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So, are you saying that the people running this country are the equivalence of the Glazer’s?We support a team that is a working demonstration of the value of investment, properly applied.
Imagine if instead, Sheikh Mansour had thought the way forward was to cut real wages for all players and staff while charging more for tickets and spending the absolute minimum on stadium upkeep.
Where would we be?
Our problem is that our 'leaders' simply do not have the imagination. Nor, in fairness, do our voters, most of whom have been conditioned to believe that a sovereign state with a fiat currency needs to be run like a private household or a corner shop.
bluethrunthru
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The magic bullet is to scrap Inheritance Tax obviously - not sure why can't all see that
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Continuous economic growth is predicated on there being infinite resources.
Therefore infinite growth is impossible because resources are finite.
An MIT research team produced a paper called “The Limits to Growth” focused on five basic factors that they claimed determined, and therefore ultimately limited, growth on Earth: population, agricultural production, natural resources, industrial production and pollution.
As resources diminish, inequality increases, more people after fewer resources makes those resources more expensive and less affordable which further concentrates resources in the hands of the owners of Capital.
Marx 5 stages of economic development were written as , slavery, feudalism, capitalism, socialism, communism, as we are currently at stage 3 then ultimately you can see what is coming :)
Therefore infinite growth is impossible because resources are finite.
An MIT research team produced a paper called “The Limits to Growth” focused on five basic factors that they claimed determined, and therefore ultimately limited, growth on Earth: population, agricultural production, natural resources, industrial production and pollution.
As resources diminish, inequality increases, more people after fewer resources makes those resources more expensive and less affordable which further concentrates resources in the hands of the owners of Capital.
Marx 5 stages of economic development were written as , slavery, feudalism, capitalism, socialism, communism, as we are currently at stage 3 then ultimately you can see what is coming :)