Criticism of Pep

[OB1]

That's an extreme opinion.

Ex-pros might be hired just because they were good players, but if they aren't good at managing a team, and managing a team well includes many many things, selections and tactics being the tip of the iceberg, then they won't get many chances to prove themselves. Scholes, G. Neville, Giggs, etc. are not managing at any (good) club, it's the same with 90% of the former great players. Kompany is a highly intelligent pro, has learned 3 years from one of the greatest managers in history, and has had little success managing Anderlecht this season.

I'd be absolutely astounded if there was a single City fan who had 50% of Pep's understanding of the game and 20% of his coaching/managing ability. There is a huge gap in his and your average Joe's knowledge of football.

I think that is being generous to the majority in the stands. That's not to say that plenty of supporters don't have a reasonable understanding of the game or even that they don't see things that some managers have become blind to or perhaps just don't have the answer to. I see and hear comments from some supporters that highlight things that I know I have not thought of but I make no great claims for my understanding of the game.

However, having the depth of understanding of the game that Pep has is another matter. One of the major points about Pep and his success is how well he can analyse games and how much he knows / understands about the game. Johan Cryuff, who I do believe was some sort of genius, spotted Pep's facility for the game early on; he knew Pep was special.

The one "advantage" that the average supporter has is that they probably aren't in danger of overthinking things, something Pep could be accused of but then that's how he comes up with history making decisions like playing Messi as a false nine.

 

[Dobsy]

Best signing in the history of the club. What's cost us this year is the balance of the squad and long term failure to settle Centre Back transfer planning. In recent years we went big on Stones, Mangala and to a lesser extent Otamendi and they've not really fully delivered.

 

[Ric]

At times like this I think we should get Pellegrini back just for press conferences, gives these cockroaches fck all & stare glumly at them.

He was the master of the straight bat.

 

[franksinatra]

At times like this I think we should get Pellegrini back just for press conferences, gives these cockroaches fck all & stare glumly at them.

That was his favoured face sat in the dug out also.

 

[Ric]

It’s going to be a sad day when Guardiola eventually leaves the club. Suspect it will be at the end of next season, but I still cling to the hope that he might yet extend his contract. He’s arguably the greatest manager in the world, certainly the best we’ve ever had, so we should just enjoy him whilst we can.

 

[blueparrot]

It’s going to be a sad day when Guardiola eventually leaves the club. Suspect it will be at the end of next season, but I still cling to the hope that he might yet extend his contract. He’s arguably the greatest manager in the world, certainly the best we’ve ever had, so we should just enjoy him whilst we can.

Is there any reason why we need a separate Pep criticism thread, from the Pep thread as a side issue ?

 

[Ric]

Is there any reason why we need a separate Pep criticism thread, from the Pep thread as a side issue ?

No, probably not tbh.

 

[eastmanc]

I mean, what is he supposed to say, in response to that question? Champions league is harf to win, let's not bother, il be great if we don't win one? criticized for a cop-out. Wouldnt exactly inspire the players.

True

 

[Andrew___K]

No, probably not tbh.

Wouldn't it be logical to close this thread then?

 

[eastmanc]

I could prove incorrect on this but I do not think anyone thinks Pep is not an outstanding manager, and the vast majority are more than grateful he is here but this is a forum and people should be able to express views whether they are gushing in praise or critical of some of his methods.

For me Pep is the greatest manager in our history and probably the most influential manager of all time on the english game. However I still cannot fathom why Angelino started at Anfield as left back, yet 7 weeks later he has been loaned out, instead of playing our 60 million pound fullback who started against United or why KDB was rested v Norwich etc.

I would not consider myself spoilt, in fact I will be eternally great to the bloke for the rest of my life for giving me memories I will cherish to the grave.

Very good post that.