Crystal Palace (H) Post Match Thread

I think we surffered from a lack of leadership on the pitch yesterday.
our first 5 captains (vinny, silva, ferna, kdb, aguero) didn't start and we had Delph as captain - how is he above stones in the pecking order?
We needed someone to take the game by the scruff of the neck and we didn't have someone to step up

Agreed. It was only when KDB came on that we gained control again. Why he left it so late to put him on his anybody’s guess. He was needed at HT.
 
I posted a reply to this. Either I didn't hit the 'post reply' button or it's vanished into the ether. Anyway, SB, the crux of the reply was that Big Dave would have hit the inside of the Palace bar with his header clearance from Townsend's piledriver and then IN!! We'd have been 2-1 up!!

I got the reply thanks. We are now 3-1 up. ;)
 
Joking apart, my late old man liked Dave as a player. Slightly before my time.

When I think back to the players I grew up with - Trautmann, Ewing, Barnes, Paul, Hayes, Johnstone et al - some of the touches compared to the likes of Bernardo, Sterling, and Sané is chalk and cheese. Dave was just one hell of a size, same as Bill Leivers. Big fellahs that had to match or better the size of the lump up front for the opposition! Footy has moved on and is played on a different planet these days.
 
When I think back to the players I grew up with - Trautmann, Ewing, Barnes, Paul, Hayes, Johnstone et al - some of the touches compared to the likes of Bernardo, Sterling, and Sané is chalk and cheese. Dave was just one hell of a size, same as Bill Leivers. Big fellahs that had to match or better the size of the lump up front for the opposition! Footy has moved on and is played on a different planet these days.

His favourite player was Peter Doherty. Heard he was quite skilful ?
 
Watch the build up leading to goal 2. Very preventable and that’s not even mentioning the shit header by Silva which put it straight on a plate for him. It was a great goal but our efforts in the passage of play before it were pathetic and indirectly led to that goal.

1/3 were just rank bad defending.
If you think about that way it was preventable but it still needed a goal of a season strike to finish it so you don’t normally expect to concede from it.
 
Morning Billy, hope you're well.
I'm pretty sure Pep has forgotten more about football than i know but Stones instead of KDB seemed plain daft to me.

I think it's compounded by the fact that it means we don't have Stones/Laporte as the CB pairing. Otamendi's not been great recently, Walker's form has been iffy. You'd think Pep would want stability in the back 4 and better ball players on the park.

Anyway, it's gone now. There's a game Boxing Day to put this right and get some rhythm back.
 
I think we surffered from a lack of leadership on the pitch yesterday.
our first 5 captains (vinny, silva, ferna, kdb, aguero) didn't start and we had Delph as captain - how is he above stones in the pecking order?
We needed someone to take the game by the scruff of the neck and we didn't have someone to step up
A leader doesn't become a shrinking violet because he aint wearing the armband
 
Exactly right. Stones might be comfortable in possession, but a dynamic midfielder he is not. He barely got out of the centre circle against Leicester, and to repeat that mistake today was folly on Pep’s part, particularly given that Gundogan, who’s not exactly fleet of foot, was one of the other two in central midfield, and the opposition had bags of pace. Walker’s a car crash at the moment and needs a rest. We look leggy and it’s only December and there’s no question that injuries have taken their toll

Yesterday was a freak result by any measure but that does not mean Pep and the players are immune from criticism. I have no issue with rotation in general but I do feel that sticking with Stones and Laporte as the CB pairing for most league and UCL games is the way to go.

I don't like to single out players or focus on the negatives too much but Walker's mare of performance could have been directed by Wes Craven. I'm in the club that considers him to be overworked and in need of a rest.

I do think we should break the bank as it were for a Fern successor in January.
 

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