Declan Rice

[Complex Simplicity]

All that money wasted if they dont challenge

They've spent 170m on 2 players who aren't world class. We spent 170m on Haaland, Bernardo Silva and Ruben Dias.

We are on a different planet to these lot.

 

[flb]

fair fucks to City sticking to our valuation the offer was a respectable one despite the hammers ridiculing it.

The obvious thing for me is City clearly believe they need another high calibre midfielder despite signing Kovacic. Will we look at another player or does history show we will go with what we have?!

Don't see us buying for the sake of it, Bellingham, Rice obviously out top 2 targets.

 

[Damien10]

It will be interesting to watch now how this plays out. Arse want to pay over 5 years, porn baron wants it over 2. I am sure he was expecting us to match. As far as I can see we have not pulled out, just said we won't match their 105. Just how much do West Ham want it over 2 years for cash flow purposes and regarding replacements.

Very interesting indeed. West Ham still haven’t rejected that offer as far as I know.

Will they dare reject it now, is the money being offered by Arsenal and its structure worth loosing Rice to a rival?

Will they make contact with City?

Either way City have given West Ham and the hope for a bidding war two fingers.

 

[FatedBlue77]

Hopefully, our alternative will be worth it.. which considering our past history means there's a very good chance it will be.

 

[MillsyTheMosher]

kovacic and gvardiol will be a very disappointing window if we let bernardo leave as well...

Unlikely Bernardo will leave after Gundogan going. If he does it would also be on the premise that we have a suitable replacement lined up. Kovacic and Gvardiol arriving with Gundogan and Laporte leaving is the most likely scenario.

 

[pep_fandom]

If we go for Gabri Veiga please no. Can't get in the Spain under 21 side ffs.

And Sergio Gomez is literally their best player haha

 

[Calv_from_the_frog]

But, But.... I thought we were ACTUALLY in for him ? ? ?

: )

 

[lazerblue]

when he heard the news

 

[Goatmeal]

I wonder if @rse bid that expecting us to bid more so they could say they went balls deep to fans.
us pulling out has probably made them shit their pants and trying to get West Ham to accept payment over 20 years
Even though our offer was less it still could be the best offer to WH as they would have been paid much sooner.
Seems strange it ain’t been accepted

 

[Rammy Blue]

Some of us have work to do & don't live for second by second updates on BM... :-)

Chances of anything being breaking news on here are very very slim nowadays.

 

[Ethan23]

Surely they won’t have much more money to spend now - if xhaka and partey leave - they’re potentially weaker than last year

 

[Rory Bluelow]

Was excited about us getting Rice. But as always, fully support the clubs judgement. As an approach, it hasn't worked out too badly for us in the past has it.

Spot on. The club consistently walks away from transfer targets where the price exceeds our top valuation. It’s been very successful.

 

[cheekybids]

Saving our powder for another target, you don't offer 90 mill then say we don't need that area covered anymore.

You do if you know he favours Arsenal..,

Pep: “I can’t guarantee you’ll play”
Rice: “I prefer Arsenal & they are determined to get me”

City: £100m
Arsenal: £105m

City: Too high for us PMSL

 

[halfcenturyup]

I'm not talking about generational talent player like Haaland while he is important he is not, Pep is still the most important for our club above any player we have even Haaland himself.

that's why i said Pep will always work with any cards in his hands because he the only select few manager with this kind power in the world. W so fortunate to have Pep as our manager but we also depended alot for him to do work on his magic so we can get away if our transfer target is not met.

I think people will only truly appreciate him long after he left from City and how extraordinary he was to transform this team to be one of the best if not the BEST club side in history of football.

The thing about Guardiola is that he has 20 years of this total football concept behind him, built on working with Cruyff who had 20 years built on working with Michels who worked with Reynolds ..... You get the picture.

No-one else can do what he can do, and all these wannabees, like Arteta and ten Hag, just can't pick up all that experience in a couple of years. It just won't work. We should do whatever we can to keep him around the club to mentor the next great total football guru, whoever that may be, over the next 5 to 10 years. Get him on the board, or whatever. If we don't, we are losing generations of knowledge and experience.

Will be a tough act to follow.

 

[SilverFox2]

This is getting interesting, we obviously made a bid that was rejected and now the Arse have a British record bid in. I wonder if and when our next bid will go in and how much? I would assume match Arsenals but over a shorter period, any higher and I think we should walk away.

What about 5 Millon more over 7 years or 40 million up front with 40 next year, let them choose which.
If they want it all at once negociate a much lower price.

Sorry being silly but our owner knows a little bit about the cost of lending big amounts to banks never mind football clubs.

 

[M12Blue]

Refused to match arsenal's bid- west ham rejected our first bid so 2+2 suggests we are out

Perhaps West Ham want the money now (18 months) they now decide to take the offer, if still on the table. £100 million over 5 years probably same value or less as £90 million over 18 months

 

[JWCH-99]

Excited to see who the alternatives are...

He says, fully expecting Gvardiol to be our last business of the window.

I wouldn’t even count on that one yet!

 

[skivitheblue9320]

Funny as F### this, City pretend bidding for players, et al, Maguire, Fred, etc, etc! Just to make sure the other clubs spend on rubbish and break the bank!! Love it. I do like Rice though but not for that money!

 

[HelloCity]

Turns out Aluko actually made the original bid on our behalf.

 

[nmc]

We can't keep relying on him to "weave his magic", though. It doesn't set a good precedent if we want him to stay past his current deal.

You are right but he had two targets and the clubs not been able to deliver either. We may pull a rabbit out of the hat this window but I very much doubt it. I do think it’s a gamble re Phillips I saw nothing from him in the few minutes he played last season, in particular his performance at Soton when he started was woeful. As a few have said - others who have struggled in their first season have shown glimpses of what’s to come But, Phillips didn’t but maybe he didn’t get enough minutes. Something that will alarm Pep was Phillips ball retention against Chelsea at home.