Deep Fakes

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Damocles, 8 Feb 2018.

  1. Damocles

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    This tech has been floating around for a while but it has seemingly just hit the mainstream. Informational video about what it is that people really should watch:



    The question is that as technology rapidly increases, especially the ability of AI to mimic and simulate human features, how will we ever be able to ascertain the true from the false?

    People often point to Photoshopped pictures as a nice comforting blanket - we can pretty much all spot a 'shopped picture right? But that's more to do with the talent of the artist (or lack thereof) than anything else. We don't instantly recognise touched up pictures as fakes.

    I'd argue that the biggest societal development over the past 18 years has been the rise of "fake news" in terms of the muddying effect between what is real and not real. And they all do it, the Canary to Guido, the Guardian to the Mail; the money as every football fan knows is in inflaming rather than informing and losing the context of a story is now a professional discipline in itself.

    How will the next generations be able to keep themselves informed and critically analyse news when even footage can be faked with high accuracy?
     
  2. Pell

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    Its already (sort of) happened, not as good obviously:

     
  3. BJL_City

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    is there no code or software that can log the original features of videos on the web and determine when they're being altered by other programs?
     

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  4. Metalartin

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    Found this over a year ago which demonstrates the ability to do it in real time... wont even be able to trust live news soon enough.

     
  5. BimboBob

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    Listen, Can you smell something?
    I don't think anyone thinks that a picture of a celebrity online or in a magazine is genuine...do they? They are always touched up, blemishes removed etc etc which is why you get other websites showing "oh my God you won't fucking believe pictures of "so and so" without make up"...

    The thing is...I rarely watch a news programme. Or read a newspaper. Or indeed take my views and opinions from youtubers. In fact most of the world passes me by. Except for the bits I search out. Did you know they have found a Roman Villa in Warwick and are going to rebury it under a new school? That's my kind of news. I'm not that interested in Trump, May, Corbyn and all the other posturers in the world. They have little or no direct effect on my life.

    Am I normal? Or in a minority? Do people genuinely believe everything they read/ watch and actively seek out news/ fake news in a multitude of ways?
     
  6. CityStu

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    Does this also impact the judicial system? Can we still have full confidence in video evidence?
     
  7. Free Ian Brown

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    Blah blah blah. Just think of the porn.
     
  8. Skip Donoghue

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    Normal to me as that is exactly how i see it .haven't watched the news for years and haven't read a paper in even longer...
     
  9. nimrod

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    I dont think Fiona Bruce would ever lie.
     
  10. BimboBob

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    Listen, Can you smell something?
    Read that as Steve Bruce.


    Apparently she's a right cow so I think she would lie.
     

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