Discontent that will end the Tory Govt is coming

[halfmist]

Whataboutery. Did they keep their pre election promises or not.

If you are that interested, just Google “Blair’s broken promises”, there are far too many to list here, there is a 32 page document for starters.

 

[bluethrunthru]

If you are that interested, just Google “Blair’s broken promises”, there are far too many to list here, there is a 32 page document for starters.

@dave_blue12 - i think he is sticking with whataboutery

 

[bluethrunthru]

Everything that is going on and the Sun’s front page is about a new TV programme. Must be a bad news day for the Tories so we’ll hide all the big stuff inside.

You know you may be onto something

UK economy shrank more than previously thought

The economy has been weaker than previously estimated for much of this year, official figures show.

www.bbc.co.uk

More councils drop holiday food voucher schemes for Christmas

Charities say families seeking support over the holiday period face a postcode lottery.

www.bbc.co.uk

Ambulance strike: A&Es braced for influx of post-strike patients

Patients appeared to stay away from hospitals on Wednesday but there are fears many will need help now.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[halfmist]

@dave_blue12 - i think he is sticking with whataboutery

You must be a very quick reader to plough through the articles

 

[dave_blue12]

Non quantifiable as the words are subjective Couldn’t disagree more.
Lying MP’s is not the at the sole discretion of the Tory MP’s True but the whoppers told by the Leave campaign who now form our government take the biscuit. Not to mention the daily bs such as awarding nurses a pay deal in line with inflation will cost every household in the country £1000. There are many many more but I don’t have the time. Save to say I have never known a government of any hue lie as much as this one does. They are shameless.
Name the MP’s who lined their pockets, don’t forget the Scottish guy from Labour, the one who sounds a bit creepy with his squeaky voice who lectures on morals but took 1/2 a million quid for access to his diary. I will get back to you on this as it will take a little while to pull together. Edit Google it yourself. There is plenty to read. BTW a quarter of Tory MPs have second jobs earning in excess of £4m extra between. No doubt employed for their expertise.
Effects of privatisation, that’s a personal opinion , not a fact. Shit pouring into the sea, railways is disarray, highest energy bills in the world
See my reply to Vic
Humans make the agenda so very difficult to legislate for groups on grounds of a particular agenda so individual behaviour cannot be mandated as you cannot force someone to do something they don’t want to. We have laws to do just this.
Priciples are subjective, never in the history of existence have we ever as a species agreed as a group what is right and wrong.

Again in bold.

You are coming across as a man with no morals, prepared to excuse any behaviour. I don’t believe that is true and maybe you’re just playing a game. Are you seriously telling me that you cannot differentiate right from wrong?

 

[domalino]

If you are that interested, just Google “Blair’s broken promises”, there are far too many to list here, there is a 32 page document for starters.

Is Blair running for office?

 

[johnnytapia]

Is Blair running for office?

I wish he were. He’d walk it.

 

[halfmist]

Again in bold.

You are coming across as a man with no morals, prepared to excuse any behaviour. I don’t believe that is true and maybe you’re just playing a game. Are you seriously telling me that you cannot differentiate right from wrong?

Oh dear, your trying to make it personal again.
If your not capable of discussing policy I feel there is little point in continuing the conversation.

 

[halfmist]

Is Blair running for office?

That’s the problem in joining the party late, your out of the loop.

 

[dave_blue12]

Oh dear, your trying to make it personal again.
If your not capable of discussing policy I feel there is little point in continuing the conversation.

You’re right there is no point in continuing as you don’t even appear to understand the words you have posted.

I suggest you read back what you have written, however I won’t be wasting anymore of my time reading your tosh.

Goodbye.

 

[johnnytapia]

That’s the problem in joining the party late, your out of the loop.

If you do nothing else between now and next Christmas, would you please learn how to use “your” and “you’re” correctly.

 

[johnnytapia]

You’re right there is no point in continuing as you don’t even appear to understand the words you have posted.

I suggest you read back what you have written, however I won’t be wasting anymore of my time reading your tosh.

Goodbye.

Here is an example of how to use “you’re” correctly.

 

[johnnytapia]

Oh dear, your trying to make it personal again.
If your not capable of discussing policy I feel there is little point in continuing the conversation.

And two examples of how to use “your” incorrectly.

 

[halfmist]

You’re right there is no point in continuing as you don’t even appear to understand the words you have posted.

I suggest you read back what you have written, however I won’t be wasting anymore of my time reading your tosh.

Goodbye.

Result.!!!

 

[Vic]

Whataboutery. Did they keep their pre election promises or not.

I'd have described it as goalpost-moving. He said, "I cannot recall any one Government who has kept to its promises".

 

[halfmist]

I'd have described it as goalpost-moving. He said, "I cannot recall any one Government who has kept to its promises".

At the risk of being repetitive, google Blair’s broken promises.

 

[coolcity]

Everyone wants more pay do to high inflation, which will lead to higher inflation.

In a lot of public sector areas the budget is fixed, if a pay awards have to be found out of that budget, so the higher the pay increase the more staff are lost.

Help the lowest paid with emergency measures, but the rest need to bit the bullet or find better paid work.

I agree in principle, but in this day and age, in one of the richest countries in the world, NOBODY should be working and struggling so much that emergency measures are needed. For those who can't work, or genuinely cannot find work fair enough, but the gap is now far too big between top and bottom and is continuing to grow.

The sad thing is that the cost of Covid had a lot to do with this and I would have liked to see people give the country the chance to recover, but it would have only brought us back to the status quo (no jokers, not the band).

I'm self employed so slightly different for me, and the postal workers strike has cost me a small fortune as I rely on some of their services for which there is no alternative, but something has to change.

The problem i have is that I can't see things getting any better under Labour. All they do is borrow and borrow again, until we're in the crap even more.

 

[halfmist]

I agree in principle, but in this day and age, in one of the richest countries in the world, NOBODY should be working and struggling so much that emergency measures are needed. For those who can't work, or genuinely cannot find work fair enough, but the gap is now far too big between top and bottom and is continuing to grow.

The sad thing is that the cost of Covid had a lot to do with this and I would have liked to see people give the country the chance to recover, but it would have only brought us back to the status quo (no jokers, not the band).

I'm self employed so slightly different for me, and the postal workers strike has cost me a small fortune as I rely on some of their services for which there is no alternative, but something has to change.

The problem i have is that I can't see things getting any better under Labour. All they do is borrow and borrow again, until we're in the crap even more.

Nail on the head.
Without doubt there are a few at the top, a lot at the bottom but to truly level out will involve those in between also making a contribution.
I just cant see the majority of this population volunteering to pay more when they are seeing their own standard of living decline.
Borrowing to pay for change is just going to push interest rates up which is fine for those with savings but those with debts its crippling and encourages more saving than spending and then the downward recessionary spiral continues.

 

[dave_blue12]

I'd have described it as goalpost-moving. He said, "I cannot recall any one Government who has kept to its promises".

Yeah the guy is a twat. His posting style reminds me of that Brexit idiot who scarpered as soon as the chickens started coming home to roost.

I don’t think it’s the same guy, he just as the same ‘I’ve made a few quid and so I know it all’ attitude.

 

[Scottyboi]

I agree in principle, but in this day and age, in one of the richest countries in the world, NOBODY should be working and struggling so much that emergency measures are needed. For those who can't work, or genuinely cannot find work fair enough, but the gap is now far too big between top and bottom and is continuing to grow.

The sad thing is that the cost of Covid had a lot to do with this and I would have liked to see people give the country the chance to recover, but it would have only brought us back to the status quo (no jokers, not the band).

I'm self employed so slightly different for me, and the postal workers strike has cost me a small fortune as I rely on some of their services for which there is no alternative, but something has to change.

The problem i have is that I can't see things getting any better under Labour. All they do is borrow and borrow again, until we're in the crap even more.

Tories borrow an obscene amount more than Labour ffs. Spouting unsubstantiated bollocks.

The Tories have always borrowed more than Labour, and always repaid less: they are the party of big deficit spending

It is often suggested that Labour is profligate and the Tories are the naturally ‘safe pair of hands’ when it comes to running the economy. The Tories, it is presumed, do not borrow as much as Labour. This is a hypothesis I have tested before. I thought it time to...

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