Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 3)

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cleavers said:
andypandy said:
For me it's pretty obvious.

Play your strongest team whenever you can in the PL and the Champions League.

Correct, clearly we have to make changes for injuries, but change the minimum, too much tinkering for me.
Agree with this too. Ask any fan what matters and we will all sound like a bunch of spoilt bastards now but very few will care much for the capital one or even the fa cup. Its the league and Europe we have a passion for. We must play our strongest available in the these fixtures a settled team is one that understand each other better. Does MP even know his strongest team though
 
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de niro said:
Colins Bellend said:
Just back and still angry. Got to say that is the most inept display of management I have seen in a long time , this guy is fucking clueless. Need to score swap a right back ,jimmy out wide right with navas on bench and Garcia in the team. To completely change the back four for a game away from home with great results going into it is beyond belief. 3 hours on a coach and still not calmed down he is fucking useless

I feel for you mate I really do, been there done that. however to be fair to pelli even though i'm fuming he rotated we battered sunderland today, they got lucky. as did Chelsea and villa. the tide will turn I promise you.

Totally agree with this. We battered them and it is all going to click in place soon. Once it does we will be unstoppable. I just hope it happens sooner rather than later. The way the league is panning out we have got away with it so far but someone will go on a run and I just hope it is us
 
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Marvin said:
Colins Bellend said:
Just back and still angry. Got to say that is the most inept display of management I have seen in a long time , this guy is fucking clueless. Need to score swap a right back ,jimmy out wide right with navas on bench and Garcia in the team. To completely change the back four for a game away from home with great results going into it is beyond belief. 3 hours on a coach and still not calmed down he is fucking useless
nasty was injured. How do you know Clichy is not carrying a back injury?

We didn't lose the game because of a shuffled back line. We lost because the ref made big mistake on their goal, and City's forwards weren't able to make a telling final pass / shot.


90+ Minuets you get to score @ least 1 goal. Sick & tired of analysing game after game where we should be winning with the so called quality @ the disposal of the Manager!
 
Ray78 said:
I can't speak for the rest but I am prepared to give him another season. No point firing Pellegrini now as there is no obvious replacement available. Once we get our injured players back and with one or two additions in January we will be fine for the rest of this season.

What if we finish outside the top four and win naff all, do you reckon the owner wouldn't want him out? Because if that happens next season the support for pelegrini won't be there in the ground
 
Marvin said:
hilts said:
Rammy Blue said:
No probs, apologies mate, I'm still so fucking irritated by that shite today, it completely fucks up my day and puts me in a shit frame of mind for the week ahead.

Even lots of vino isn't helping....

;-)

No problem mate, the only reason i can think of is that he feels the need to rotate and gambles against the lesser teams, but looking how we have done so far this season doing this it would worry me greatly if this was the case

how many good teams play with two in midfield and two up front? bizarre
Do any of you follow the city news? Silva and Fernandinho and Nastasic were injured. So who comes into midfield? You have a choice of Milner who he played and Rodwell or Garcia. Garcia went off at half time and we still didn't score with navas on

Not trying to reduce the impact of the result or performance, but you have to accept there were injuries which a manager has to react too

Please don't try and blame the result on rotation of full backs. Totally irrelevant

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andypandy said:
There's no middle ground with us. We either batter someone (at home), or we lose (away).

We need to learn again how to win ugly away from home, and if we cant win then at lease make sure we dont lose.

They sound like winning tactics, the 'wide open spaces' tactics currently deployed away don't.
Forget pretty when struggling and dig in. Can we do this? Is it holistic enough ;-)
 
80s Shorts said:
Marvin said:
hilts said:
No problem mate, the only reason i can think of is that he feels the need to rotate and gambles against the lesser teams, but looking how we have done so far this season doing this it would worry me greatly if this was the case

how many good teams play with two in midfield and two up front? bizarre
Do any of you follow the city news? Silva and Fernandinho and Nastasic were injured. So who comes into midfield? You have a choice of Milner who he played and Rodwell or Garcia. Garcia went off at half time and we still didn't score with navas on

Not trying to reduce the impact of the result or performance, but you have to accept there were injuries which a manager has to react too

Please don't try and blame the result on rotation of full backs. Totally irrelevant

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Colins Bellend said:
Just back and still angry. Got to say that is the most inept display of management I have seen in a long time , this guy is fucking clueless. Need to score swap a right back ,jimmy out wide right with navas on bench and Garcia in the team. To completely change the back four for a game away from home with great results going into it is beyond belief. 3 hours on a coach and still not calmed down he is fucking useless


I travelled on the coach with CB and can tell you that he hadn't calmed down when we got home & I even asked him to say a few swear words for me while he was at it.

Why was Zaba not on from the word go? Why was Yaya on at all? Why is Zaba not Captain whilst Kompany is still out injured? Why were there so many changes? I understand the need for changes for the players who were injured but what about the ones who played last week and were not injured? WHY, OH WHY, OH FLAMING WHY CAN WE NOT PLAY THE SAME TEAM MORE THAN ONCE!!!!!??? Yes I know all about 'squad rotation' to save the poor darlings from getting too tired but we don't have a match next week and City pay their wages not the blooming International teams!! If it weren't for City in a lot of instances they wouldn't even be in the International teams!! But the main thing for me was why the (insert swear word there) was YaYa even on that pitch? He had no interest, he wandered around like a lost soul and if it hadn't been for people like James Milner we would have surrendered that match without a shot being fired!!

Mr Pellegrini doesn't seem to like the English players but it was two of them who saved us from total humiliation today (IMHO) James Milner and Joleon Lescott, with help from Nasri and, when he was allowed on the pitch, Zaba!!

I am not one to advocate a change of Manager, especially so early, but he has to listen to someone like Brian Kidd who has played/coached, been there, worn the tee shirt and written the book on how to get on in the Premier League, instead of listening to the man who sits next to Pellegrini at the matches!! I've no idea who the man is but I am sure someone will tell me!!

Sorry for the long diatribe, but like CB I've spent 3 hours on a cramped coach and have not yet come back to earth from my rage in space!! Boy do we City fans know how quickly we can go from euphoria to despair within a week!! (Actually despair is a bit strong but I am sure you follow my reasoning?)

EDIT p.s. Adam Johnson lying on top of the ball and then conning the ref into giving them a throw in constitutes cheating in my book as does Gus Poyet shouting at the ball boy for throwing the ball back in too quickly whenever it was our ball. I kept a particular eye on that situation having seen him really yelling at one in the first half. Gus you used to be one of the managers I respected but I am sorry that is cheating.
 
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Bluescholar said:
Blueles61 said:
Marvin said:
Fernandinho, Nasty and Silva all picked up injuries. And those are only the ones we know about.

The full backs were rotated. I am surprised anyone is using this as a factor for our loss. It's just a straw to grasp at and use to blame for the defeat

I can't come up with any explanations myself tat are any better, but there's nothing to be gained from just piling on he misery. The only beneficiary is Man Utd and Arsenal


Yeah, I know 3 changes we due to injuries, but he needs to stop the rotation, and stick with a settled team when he can, which he doesn't.
These are young, fit athletes that should be able to play 2 games a week without being tired.

Exactly. Pick your best available until injury or suspension takes them out. Players want to play every game.
Oh and never pick a starting 11 with Garcia AND Kolarov in,1 is daft but both is just criminal.
Absolutely ....Garcia and Kolorov at best are championship players....but for some explicable reason they are regulars..why why why...................Pellers is not the only one to blame though ...Mancini also gave these two losers game time..................maybe its just us fans that go week in week out that can,t see what they see...........
 
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prestonibbo_mcfc said:
wilmslowblue said:
chaddblue said:
In the interview I heard on 5-live, Pellegrini said we played well today and he is happy with how we are playing away from home, so he doesn't think there's a problem. Very very worrying

OH MY did he really did he actually say that? Now i am very very worried. This is by far the worst engineer i have ever seen!

Could he be the same engineer that said, "The Titanic is unsinkable" ?

Nope, the one that is meant to win 5 trophies in 5 years! The engineer who may well get us into the knockout stages at the expense of us finishing 10th in the league. The engineer who has won 1 away match all season and seems to think that the Premier League is a joke league like La Liga!
 
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