chris85mcfc said:flb said:br62 said:WOW.......there is some real crap being talked on here.
Of course MP does not rate the current crop of English players and quite rightly so!!!!!!!........they are just not good enough for a top team.
The condemnation of Navas is quite pathetic.....he was the only one who worried Sunderland by taking on their defenders when he came on and put some great crosses in. And it took Henry a full season at Arsenal to settle into the English game yet you are giving up on Navas already.
One guy wrote....''I too am worried fella, our English lads will either be sold or put in transfer requests to gain 1st team football''..............................................
......worried????? I will be worried if they are still here in February. So when we play Barca in the round of the last 16 you would prefer that Richards, Lescott, Rodwell( jury is still out on him) and the like are included in that team.......God help us!!!!!!!.
Horseshit
I could fucking worry Sunderland let alone Navas, make him come inside and hes toast
Richards,Lescott,Milner and Rodwell are not being given the minuites on the pitch hence a deteriation in there overall peformances.
i take it you have heard of the homegrown rule?
The homegrown rule is the only reason Richard/Lescott and to a certain extent Milner are actually still at our club.
I love Milner and Richards, but unfortunately they are not at the level that we are aiming for.
NQCitizen said:flb said:FantasyIreland said:I look at those four names and I cant see beyond a level more akin to where two of them have come from.
Along with several others,Garcia,Dzeko,Kolarov etc. if we are to achieve our ambitions,we need to be replacing them.
Id argue against Richards,Rodwell and most certainly Milner
Who do we bring in then bearing in mind the homegrown rule?
Nobody as yet has answered this question.
Hughes, Barkley, Shaw, Clyne and Redmond.
Then discard them when we get bored.
lancs blue said:flb said:mancity1 said:Rodwell was an unused sub on Sunday BS , he was available to play.
I am sure already MP doesn't rate him , he is in the Lescott , Milner , Hart, Richards , Barry , Clichy etc basket.
Only gets a gig when others up the order are injured etc.
Rodwell won't be at City next season if MP is still in charge.
MP doesn't rate our current crop of English breed at all BS and I think you and I both know that.
Thats the top and bottom of it
Pellagrini must assume that the English lads are just happy with an FA Cup and Capital Cup outing once every other month, if hes so fucking special why cant he coach the lads to his so called level?
I too am worried fella, our English lads will either be sold or put in transfer requests to gain 1st team football
Hes playing Garcia at the expense of Rodwell and MIlner.
And what the fuck does Navas bring to the party that Milner did very well last season doing in that position
Navas is a one trick pony with no left foot, and he coudlnt tackle a fucking cooked breakfast.
If that happens which English superstars (ha!) will replace them? Otherwise we'll be trying to win the CL with a 19/20 man squad.
flb said:chris85mcfc said:flb said:Horseshit
I could fucking worry Sunderland let alone Navas, make him come inside and hes toast
Richards,Lescott,Milner and Rodwell are not being given the minuites on the pitch hence a deteriation in there overall peformances.
i take it you have heard of the homegrown rule?
The homegrown rule is the only reason Richard/Lescott and to a certain extent Milner are actually still at our club.
I love Milner and Richards, but unfortunately they are not at the level that we are aiming for.
flb said:FantasyIreland said:flb said:Richards,Lescott,Milner and Rodwell are not being given the minuites on the pitch hence a deteriation in there overall peformances.
i take it you have heard of the homegrown rule?
I look at those four names and I cant see beyond a level more akin to where two of them have come from.
Along with several others,Garcia,Dzeko,Kolarov etc. if we are to achieve our ambitions,we need to be replacing them.
Id argue against Richards,Rodwell and most certainly Milner
Who do we bring in then bearing in mind the homegrown rule?
Nobody as yet has answered this question.
chris85mcfc said:flb said:chris85mcfc said:The homegrown rule is the only reason Richard/Lescott and to a certain extent Milner are actually still at our club.
I love Milner and Richards, but unfortunately they are not at the level that we are aiming for.
Complete fucking rubbish about Milner and Richards-they will not be given the chance under this manager, yet that complete fucking waste of space Garcia comes in as does Demechiles (sp) at the expense of the English lads.
I will ask you again-if we get rid of the English lads who comes in to fill the homegrown criteria?
It's not horse shit tho is it. How many of our 'English quota' played in the most recent England games. Don't recall seeing Lescott, Richards or Milner (may have come on as sub). So if their not good enough for England how can they be good enough for us?
The problem is more in your second point, of who is a better option? And i agree there isn't much talent about and those that are potentially good enough will want to play week in, week out. And this is my reasons as to why we have kept hold of Lescott/Richards as there isn't much else available.
Like someone else mentioned I like the look of Luke Shaw, James Ward-Prowse at Southampton and also Ross Barkley at Everton but personally i can't see any of those moving any time soon. Pretty sure Luke Shaw has just signed a 5 year contract.
flb said:chris85mcfc said:
Complete fucking rubbish about Milner and Richards-they will not be given the chance under this manager, yet that complete fucking waste of space Garcia comes in as does Demechiles (sp) at the expense of the English lads.
I will ask you again-if we get rid of the English lads who comes in to fill the homegrown criteria?
It's not horse shit tho is it. How many of our 'English quota' played in the most recent England games. Don't recall seeing Lescott, Richards or Milner (may have come on as sub). So if their not good enough for England how can they be good enough for us?
The problem is more in your second point, of who is a better option? And i agree there isn't much talent about and those that are potentially good enough will want to play week in, week out. And this is my reasons as to why we have kept hold of Lescott/Richards as there isn't much else available.
Like someone else mentioned I like the look of Luke Shaw, James Ward-Prowse at Southampton and also Ross Barkley at Everton but personally i can't see any of those moving any time soon. Pretty sure Luke Shaw has just signed a 5 year contract.
Richards has had appalling luck with injuries, Milner is certainly good enough, jury is out on Rodwell
Personally id give Everton whatever they like for Baines.
If its going to be English out English has to come in.
chris85mcfc said:flb said:chris85mcfc said:Complete fucking rubbish about Milner and Richards-they will not be given the chance under this manager, yet that complete fucking waste of space Garcia comes in as does Demechiles (sp) at the expense of the English lads.
I will ask you again-if we get rid of the English lads who comes in to fill the homegrown criteria?
It's not horse shit tho is it. How many of our 'English quota' played in the most recent England games. Don't recall seeing Lescott, Richards or Milner (may have come on as sub). So if their not good enough for England how can they be good enough for us?
The problem is more in your second point, of who is a better option? And i agree there isn't much talent about and those that are potentially good enough will want to play week in, week out. And this is my reasons as to why we have kept hold of Lescott/Richards as there isn't much else available.
Like someone else mentioned I like the look of Luke Shaw, James Ward-Prowse at Southampton and also Ross Barkley at Everton but personally i can't see any of those moving any time soon. Pretty sure Luke Shaw has just signed a 5 year contract.
Richards has had appalling luck with injuries, Milner is certainly good enough, jury is out on Rodwell
Personally id give Everton whatever they like for Baines.
If its going to be English out English has to come in.
But how is Pellegrini expected to give Richards a run of games when he plays 2 games then hes out for 3 weeks. He isn't reliable and you never know what you are going to get. Lescott just isn't at the required level.
Rodwell is similar to Richards, I want them both to do well but injuries are probably going to dog their career.
Agree on Baines i'd have him on 01.01.2014. He is probably the only available English player that could improve us.
Like i said if it wasn't for the homegrown rule my opinion is none of those English players mentioned would be at our club.
chris85mcfc said:flb said:chris85mcfc said:Complete fucking rubbish about Milner and Richards-they will not be given the chance under this manager, yet that complete fucking waste of space Garcia comes in as does Demechiles (sp) at the expense of the English lads.
I will ask you again-if we get rid of the English lads who comes in to fill the homegrown criteria?
It's not horse shit tho is it. How many of our 'English quota' played in the most recent England games. Don't recall seeing Lescott, Richards or Milner (may have come on as sub). So if their not good enough for England how can they be good enough for us?
The problem is more in your second point, of who is a better option? And i agree there isn't much talent about and those that are potentially good enough will want to play week in, week out. And this is my reasons as to why we have kept hold of Lescott/Richards as there isn't much else available.
Like someone else mentioned I like the look of Luke Shaw, James Ward-Prowse at Southampton and also Ross Barkley at Everton but personally i can't see any of those moving any time soon. Pretty sure Luke Shaw has just signed a 5 year contract.
Richards has had appalling luck with injuries, Milner is certainly good enough, jury is out on Rodwell
Personally id give Everton whatever they like for Baines.
If its going to be English out English has to come in.
But how is Pellegrini expected to give Richards a run of games when he plays 2 games then hes out for 3 weeks. He isn't reliable and you never know what you are going to get. Lescott just isn't at the required level.
Rodwell is similar to Richards, I want them both to do well but injuries are probably going to dog their career.
Agree on Baines i'd have him on 01.01.2014. He is probably the only available English player that could improve us.
Like i said if it wasn't for the homegrown rule my opinion is none of those English players mentioned would be at our club.
NQCitizen said:chris85mcfc said:flb said:Richards has had appalling luck with injuries, Milner is certainly good enough, jury is out on Rodwell
Personally id give Everton whatever they like for Baines.
If its going to be English out English has to come in.
But how is Pellegrini expected to give Richards a run of games when he plays 2 games then hes out for 3 weeks. He isn't reliable and you never know what you are going to get. Lescott just isn't at the required level.
Rodwell is similar to Richards, I want them both to do well but injuries are probably going to dog their career.
Agree on Baines i'd have him on 01.01.2014. He is probably the only available English player that could improve us.
Like i said if it wasn't for the homegrown rule my opinion is none of those English players mentioned would be at our club.
I'd have had Lallana and Caulker by now.
flb said:chris85mcfc said:flb said:Richards has had appalling luck with injuries, Milner is certainly good enough, jury is out on Rodwell
Personally id give Everton whatever they like for Baines.
If its going to be English out English has to come in.
But how is Pellegrini expected to give Richards a run of games when he plays 2 games then hes out for 3 weeks. He isn't reliable and you never know what you are going to get. Lescott just isn't at the required level.
Rodwell is similar to Richards, I want them both to do well but injuries are probably going to dog their career.
Agree on Baines i'd have him on 01.01.2014. He is probably the only available English player that could improve us.
Like i said if it wasn't for the homegrown rule my opinion is none of those English players mentioned would be at our club.