Discuss Pellegrini....

[Shaelumstash]

Re: Pellikeegan

PMSL!!!

Was hoping you'd be on. So go on, what's your analysis? I know you won't admit that Pellegrini got out thought by a better tactician, so I'm dying to know what tonight was down to. Luck? Injuries? We woz robbed?

This isn't quite 6 hour ban stuff but it's getting close. Are you trying to argue with Dave or provoke him? For what purpose? Post your opinion by all means but directing it to another poster for the purpose of arguments is bollocks and will get thrown out

It's not directed at anyone. It's my opinion. I have made the comparison of Pellegrini and Keegan before (entertaining, attacking football, but tactically naive against the best), and it was actually DD that came up with the moniker "Pellikeegan".

Tonight was a perfect example of my point. He got outsmarted by a more tactically astute manager. If people don't think that was the case tonight, I'd love to hear an alternative viewpoint. Especially from those who have disagreed with this point in the past.

 

[rastus]

did all he could with what he had tbh, fern being out really fucked us up and sow it came to pass on the field. we were indeed very lucky tonight, we could have easily been hammered if wernt for posts and wank decision making from them at the time.

and tbh i dont buy into this we have them in the cup, bollocks to the cup, league means more

And there lies the problem, however he did set up wrong, but its not pellers fault we didnt invest in quality players for possible weak areas. I mean come on MDM in mid with Yaya means we have poor quality backups.

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

Re: Pellikeegan

He got things wrong tonight but what was it 20 games unbeaten before? Chelsea are faveys but we will run them close.

 

[argyle]

Re: Pellikeegan

PMSL!!!

Was hoping you'd be on. So go on, what's your analysis? I know you won't admit that Pellegrini got out thought by a better tactician, so I'm dying to know what tonight was down to. Luck? Injuries? We woz robbed?

This isn't quite 6 hour ban stuff but it's getting close. Are you trying to argue with Dave or provoke him? For what purpose? Post your opinion by all means but directing it to another poster for the purpose of arguments is bollocks and will get thrown out

If anything he's set out his views and backed them up with what he thinks are valid points. It's everyone else who are just writing 'shit' and 'bollocks' that are in the wrong.

If anyone thinks he's wrong then they should argue the points made.

 

[meeesh]

Only 18 months gap before Pep arrives,then the engineer and his half asleep at every game mate can go back to Sth America (hopefully as title winners) mind

 

[somethingelse]

MP has got his substitutions right in most games this season today he looked like he was in a trance ,
he needs to give his head a shake

 

[Shaelumstash]

Re: Pellikeegan

Why not mention this over the past two month?

Or when we won away in Munich?

Or when we have blitzed nearly all of the big teams we have played?

Absolutely pathetic how some so called fans can come out with shit like this after one defeat!

I've mentioned many times over the season that I think Pellegrini is tactically naive.

For the record, I think he's doing a good job. Some of the football we have played this season has been brilliant. The first 30 minutes away at Spurs is possibly the best I've ever seen us play.

But because I like him and think he's doing a good job, doesn't mean he is above criticism. He openly admits that he sets his team up his way and he doesn't worry about the opposition. That to me in the modern game is naive and gives our opponents an advantage.

By all means criticise the manager or players after a defeat but do it in the match day thread. Don't start a new one to slag off our manager it just seems petty and uncalled for. You're coming across like your glad Pelle fucked up so you can prove a point.

Apologies if that's how it's come across. That is not my intention.

I repeat, I like Pellegrini and think he's doing a good job. My point is he is tactically naive. If people don't agree, I'm very eager to hear their opinion of what went wrong tonight.

 

[bugsyblue]

Pellegrini - great man manager, poor tactician

Discuss?

 

[Manchester_lalala]

Re: Pellikeegan

He's sort of right, he should of at least changed it to a 451 tonight with Milner in for dzeko/negredo. 442 was suicide tonight with demichellis in the middle.


Can I make a request to the mods please? Anyone who calls demichellis mdm should be banned for a year.

 

[Ray78]

Not many options on the bench to change the game and much as I rate Milner he isn't a holding midfielder.

 

[mike channon´s windmill]

Luck plays such a role and Fernandinho was just worse possible break for us. I pray MP isn't, as has been said, just a really unlucky manager.

Me too but it doesn´t look good for him getting done by that twat again - big fears about him just not being a winner although the football has been phenomenal at times. Got to be ruthless in this game and show no mercy but tonight he kept players on who should have been hauled off. The injuries have compounded everything and I really fear for us the next few weeks.
Shit happens I suppose

 

[rastus]

Re: Pellikeegan

Why not mention this over the past two month?

Or when we won away in Munich?

Or when we have blitzed nearly all of the big teams we have played?

Absolutely pathetic how some so called fans can come out with shit like this after one defeat!

Did we have 3 in midfield against Bayern:

---------Garcia------------
Yaya------------Fernandino

 

[Andouble]

Only 18 months gap before Pep arrives,then the engineer and his half asleep at every game mate can go back to Sth America (hopefully as title winners) mind

fuck me, first loss in almost 3 months with our 3 best players out. Pick yourself up, pal.

 

[daztrueblue91]

Re: Pellikeegan

I've mentioned many times over the season that I think Pellegrini is tactically naive.

For the record, I think he's doing a good job. Some of the football we have played this season has been brilliant. The first 30 minutes away at Spurs is possibly the best I've ever seen us play.

But because I like him and think he's doing a good job, doesn't mean he is above criticism. He openly admits that he sets his team up his way and he doesn't worry about the opposition. That to me in the modern game is naive and gives our opponents an advantage.

By all means criticise the manager or players after a defeat but do it in the match day thread. Don't start a new one to slag off our manager it just seems petty and uncalled for. You're coming across like your glad Pelle fucked up so you can prove a point.

Apologies if that's how it's come across. That is not my intention.

I repeat, I like Pellegrini and think he's doing a good job. My point is he is tactically naive. If people don't agree, I'm very eager to hear their opinion of what went wrong tonight.

I wouldn't necessarily say tactically naïve. He changed it against Liverpool, Chelsea (A) and Munich (A) I just think tonight he had little option but to go for it. With Fernandinho and Garcia injured and Milner only just recovering from an injury we was quite limited in who we could choose from.

What tonight has shown is that there is a huge drop in quality in some of our back up players. We are lacking at CB and CM and I reckon this will be fully addressed in the summer.

 

[BillyShears]

Re: Pellikeegan

I repeat, I like Pellegrini and think he's doing a good job. My point is he is tactically naive. If people don't agree, I'm very eager to hear their opinion of what went wrong tonight.

Just because a team doesn't win, it doesn't mean the manager is tactically naive. Tonight we had limited options due to injuries to Garcia, Milner, Fernandinho, Nasri, and Kun.

I think it's also important if you're going to criticise the manager and to make as bold a claim as he's tactically naive, then you should inspect the match facts. The number of touches we had in Chelsea's box, the number of shots we had at their goal, nothing in the statistical breakdown suggests a tactical fuck up. It all suggests our attacking players had an off day.

 

[momo88]

Re: Pellegrini - great man manager, poor tactician

Discuss?

Maybe just have to change his 442 formations against some teams 2 mid and 2 static strikers up front !

but football as mancini said is strange :) city could have get 2 goals and won (despiste chelsea hitting the post 3 times) and everyone will come to say ha yeah hoo pellegrini is genius a bit like bayern away game !! some time it work other time doesn't work maybe he should have gone negative with 5 in the mid since fernandinho nasri and aguero are missing

 

[FromPollockToSilva]

Luck plays such a role and Fernandinho was just worse possible break for us. I pray MP isn't, as has been said, just a really unlucky manager.

Me too but it doesn´t look good for him getting done by that twat again - big fears about him just not being a winner although the football has been phenomenal at times. Got to be ruthless in this game and show no mercy but tonight he kept players on who should have been hauled off. The injuries have compounded everything and I really fear for us the next few weeks.
Shit happens I suppose

I'm struggling to see who he could have brought on. As much as everyone seems to love Milner in central midfield (based on one good season with Aston Villa), Mancini and Pellegrini, plus whichever poor sod is managing England at any given moment, do not seem to rate him in that position at all. I would suggest that there's probably a reason for that.

 

[OB1]

Whilst I am critical of Manuel tonight; there is a lot of drama queenery going on across the various threads. Chelsea executed their game plan well; whereas City did not execute theirs well enough. City had plenty of the ball and enough opportunities to have scored; indeed City should have opened the scoring.

Dzeko had five goal attempts and did not hit the target once. Silva had five too and only hit the target once; he should have scored at least once.

 

[dctid]

Re: Pellikeegan

I've mentioned many times over the season that I think Pellegrini is tactically naive.

For the record, I think he's doing a good job. Some of the football we have played this season has been brilliant. The first 30 minutes away at Spurs is possibly the best I've ever seen us play.

But because I like him and think he's doing a good job, doesn't mean he is above criticism. He openly admits that he sets his team up his way and he doesn't worry about the opposition. That to me in the modern game is naive and gives our opponents an advantage.

By all means criticise the manager or players after a defeat but do it in the match day thread. Don't start a new one to slag off our manager it just seems petty and uncalled for. You're coming across like your glad Pelle fucked up so you can prove a point.

Apologies if that's how it's come across. That is not my intention.

I repeat, I like Pellegrini and think he's doing a good job. My point is he is tactically naive. If people don't agree, I'm very eager to hear their opinion of what went wrong tonight.

I not sure he is naive but i do think that he and the clubs management has a very romantic view of football which in Spain may work but in the prem is questionable.

MP was brought in to play a style of football and he is doing that

I think he needs to be more pragmatic

 

[Mancini Manus Domini]

Is there really any point in having Milner and Rodwell?