Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2015/16

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Hand on heart, when was the last time we played really well??, Seville away??, Newcastle at home but they should have been 2/3 up before we scored, other than that take away the first 4 games of the season and we have been average to say the least
Spot on,some scoreslines have flattered the Newcastle one you have mentioned even Norwich recently,we started the season with a desire and intensity and (injuries taken into account) it has slowly and surely eroded away...
 
His comments about having so few players to choose from are embarrassing, we have spent more than just about any team in the world, at both senior and youth levels.

How do some of these EDS players feel when they hear that? He's just covering his own back again, the shithouse.
 
2nd brain fart in two weeks.
Time for the board to act is NOW as we won't be in the Champions League next season with Pellegrini in charge.

i would imagine this is the only scenario under which he he would be sacked before the end of the season but its looking increasingly likes with he way we are playing

company and kun are a couple of weeks away from being fit and if we cannot keep them fit then we are in trouble

the obsession with he champs league needs to be dropped as well as we aint getting anywhere near winning it this season at least
 
Players past their prime or unable to change games.

The only defence for MP is that I firmly believe our squad is not as good as some make out.

We lack speed and strength on the ball.

How is that a defence for MP? He presumably had some say in the summer signings that were supposed to address the problem of squad depth.

If we end up out of the top 4 this season - and that is a distinct possibility if our form isn't turned around soon - what price Guardiola changing his mind, if indeed he intends coming to City. Right now it's difficult to detect any sense that the players believe in the way Pellegrini sets the team up.
 
That Tadic incident was symptomatic of a defensive malaise that's grown and grown over the course of the last 18 months. When we steamed our way to the title in 2014 most teams had never seen such attacking football and were shit scared of us as a consequence. Defensively then we weren't overly tested. But as always happens in football, once you've been schooled you go away and do your homework, and the number of sides we face now who have watched videos of our defeats and set themselves up to exploit our defensive weakness on the counterattack accordingly - either via a high press or bus parking - is nobody's business.


There is mitigation in that we have the worst injury list in the division (and one which includes our best players with monotonous regularity), and there is also mitigation in the quality of the opposition we are now facing compared to 2 years ago. It really is the most competitive league in the world; everyone has money to burn and there are players at most other clubs now that I would happily see in the current City squad. Mane and Pelle, Payet and Moses, Stones and Barkley, Arnautovic and Shaqiri, even Bournemouth's Matt Ritchie was a constant fucking menace against us. That's where the excuses end though.


We went through the manager's tactical shortcomings ad nauseum after the Liverpool debacle (particularly the Ya Ya in a midfield two obsession), and I cited variously “West Ham away last season, where we went with Ya Ya and Fernando as an immobile duo in the middle, Silva a fish out of water down the left, and Navas hugging the right touchline, and it led to open season on Mangala, Bayern away in the Allianz where Ya Ya allowed Boateng to carry the ball from his own half to the edge of our area completely unmolested time and time again, the absolute debacle at home to CSKA with Ya Ya in a midfield two, a game that he ended up getting sent off in, Liverpool away where we were run ragged, Barca at home where in the absence of Ya Ya he went with Milner and Fernando as a two and we got made to look like rank amateurs, the fiasco at the Swamp where Ya Ya, again in a midfield two, made Hair Bear look like Usain Bolt in a performance of almost criminal negligence, Monchengladbach where we were so overrun that Ya Ya had to be hoicked at half time, and then the same thing again last Saturday against the dippers”, as examples of piss poor judgment on the manager’s behalf. Defensively though they were not exclusive. I could have added the shambles at home to Seville, where the opposition went 2 on 2 against Zabaleta and Navas, a pairing who speak the same language and who have played together dozens of times, yet were undone by simple give and go's time after time after time, both of them going after the man with the ball like 10 year olds or alternatively both trying to block the runner leaving the man with the ball free to race forward. And then there was today. A 35 year old defending (calamitously) on the half way line, whilst Pellegrini opted to play 3 lightweight attacking midfielders behind a lummox of a centre forward, a quartet that provided no more than about a third of the intense pressing needed to prevent the opposition breaking free to run at poor old Martin Dimichelis.....and I won't even start on the Fernandinho substitution (again).

It's hard to comprehend what's going on out there at times at the moment, and if you ask me right now if we'll finish top 4, it's a 'no'. When we started winning trophies I remember Taggart commenting on the sheer physicality of the City team (something that had been a feature of all his united sides - I think there was one year we played them they had something like 7 players who were 6ft 2' or bigger - De Gea 6ft 4', Camelgob 6ft 3', Vidic 6ft 2', Smalling 6ft 5', Valencia 6ft 2', Fletcher 6ft 2', Van Persie 6ft 2'), when we had Kompany, Lescott, Kolarov, Toure, Gaz Baz, Balotelli and Dzeko available, and additionally supported by stocky little balls of muscle in the shape of Zabaleta, Tevez, De Jong and Milner, and whilst size isn't the be all end all, I look at the City squad today and, defensively in particular, it seems very fragile both physically and mentally. Sterling lightweight, Navas lightweight, KDB lightweight, Silva lightweight, Nasri lightweight. Great to watch when vastly inferior opposition's standing back and letting you play, but easily cowed and beaten when the opposition's up for it.

For me Pellegrini is a busted flush. Tactics, team selections, substitutions, even purchases (in terms of the balance of the squad as a whole), have been questionable for a long time now, to the point that he is almost getting the worst out of the players at his disposal rather than the best. As to getting rid of him, sadly I don't see how we can. If we have bet our entire holding on Pep, then no-one is going to want to come to City as a 6 month stop gap, not unless you want a fucking idiot like Redknapp or Warnock in charge. All we can do is pray that the injuries abate and Kun and Kompers somehow sustain an acceptable level of fitness between now and May to drag us over the line.


Hard to disagree with you; although I am not at the point of worrying about the top four just yet.

I must say that if I had a big quibble with our buying of players, it is the light-weight mentality and physicality.

If we have got a commitment from Pep to come here next year, I would consider offering Hiddink a short term deal but I worry that he is now past his sell by date. The other aging option for such a role, I guess, is Capello. He's hardly what we want style wise but you would hope that he could organise our lot defensively and he has a proven ability to win titles with big teams.
 
It's right to say we shouldn't over react because we do have a realistic chance of winning a couple of trophies,but
when it comes to making a decision on MPs future he will be judged as most managers are on what they achieved
with the resources they have at their disposal.
This season we've lost on too many occasions with very poor performances including a couple of drubbings.There
seems to be a lack of structure in team formations and very little flexibility to change things during matches.
Even if we do pick up some silverware this season it's difficult to see how Pellers can be judged to have been a
success when all these things are taken into account.
 
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