Dispatches/Sunday Times investigation: Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

[mexico1970]

Ridiculous post, I don’t vote anymore and have never voted Tory but I’ve got friends and old family members who have passed that were conservative supporters and they’re certainly not cunts. I may not agree with their choice of political party but they are good friends and family and to judge them on their politics is plain stupid.

Maybe by suggesting that all Tory voters are cunts they got a pat on the back from the beret wearing hive minders. In some worlds you are judged solely by the colour of your rosette ;)

 

[youngbob]

Reprehensible behaviour yes. Rape no.

Have you done any reading or research into the allegations?

 

[mexico1970]

Fuck off, put simply. I didn't say his behaviour was acceptable in my own opinion I said it's how he behaved at the time it's supposed to have happened. Indeed right at the start I said it wasn't a defence of Brand. That he used his fame, like lots of other famous people, to sleep with as many women as he could. Those are facts, ones he himself admits to. In fact he openly boasted and flaunted these facts at the time. You also don't have to explain what rape is or the psychological reasons most men who commit it do so, I'm well aware of them. I'm also aware why lots of women don't go to the police, I mentioned that. "Hard as I've no doubt it would have been" adding they should have still gone to the police. They should and even now, years later, they could still go to the police. The ones interviewed by the programme have had no difficulty recounting their stories to a media reporter, why not tell the police? I'd sure as hell want the fucker rotting in a prison cell if it was me, not just his reputation, which wasn't that great anyway, destroyed. He's made his millions I'm sure he can live comfortably if he never works again.
Finally, did you really imply at the end of your post that I don't think rape is a big deal??? Is that what you are saying?

You didn't say it was acceptable and what you wrote was IMHO common sense, it wont be enough for some people if you don't go as far to say you want him skinned and slung over tower bridge without trial.

Due process, a nice cosy cell with 7ft Nigel his new best buddy please.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Fuck off, put simply. I didn't say his behaviour was acceptable in my own opinion I said it's how he behaved at the time it's supposed to have happened. Indeed right at the start I said it wasn't a defence of Brand. That he used his fame, like lots of other famous people, to sleep with as many women as he could. Those are facts, ones he himself admits to. In fact he openly boasted and flaunted these facts at the time. You also don't have to explain what rape is or the psychological reasons most men who commit it do so, I'm well aware of them. I'm also aware why lots of women don't go to the police, I mentioned that. "Hard as I've no doubt it would have been" adding they should have still gone to the police. They should and even now, years later, they could still go to the police. The ones interviewed by the programme have had no difficulty recounting their stories to a media reporter, why not tell the police? I'd sure as hell want the fucker rotting in a prison cell if it was me, not just his reputation, which wasn't that great anyway, destroyed. He's made his millions I'm sure he can live comfortably if he never works again.
Finally, did you really imply at the end of your post that I don't think rape is a big deal??? Is that what you are saying?

Cmon you know unless you agree with the group think morally right mindset, you're open to accusations of supporting rapists.

It's a shame because sometimes valid honest conversations get closed down.

 

[paulchapo]

Get a grip, this goes beyond 'behaving like a ****' ffs.

Okay a big ****. Not a nice person. Same as Mendy was in his treatment of women. It didn't make him a rapist though as two separate juries found him not guilty. The same as Brand isn't until legally convicted, in spite of the lynch mob having him already hanged. For the hard of hearing and the ones who get outraged at sections of my post, right at the start I said it wasn't a defence of Brand. Does he come across as a narcissist, a vile person and has he treated women like throwaway commodities in the past? Yes without a doubt. Do I find that behaviour acceptable? Absolutely not. Sadly, If such behaviour was worthy of a prison sentence there wouldn't be enough space to hold everyone.

Rape is an entirely different kettle of fish, but until he's legally convicted of such Brand is, or was, just a not very nice person who used his looks, fame and power to sleep with lots of women.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Maybe by suggesting that all Tory voters are cunts they got a pat on the back from the beret wearing hive minders. In some worlds you are judged solely by the colour of your rosette ;)

Or swastika. ;-)

 

[mexico1970]

Or swastika. ;-)

Hahahahahaha, you leave Harry out of this mate he's done nothing wrong for at least 3 years ;)

 

[paulchapo]

You didn't say it was acceptable and what you wrote was IMHO common sense, it wont be enough for some people if you don't go as far to say you want him skinned and slung over tower bridge without trial.

Due process, a nice cosy cell with 7ft Nigel his new best buddy please.

Thanks. People read a post, see snippets of it and start frothing at the mouth, without taking it all into context. Right at the start I said I wasn't defending the bloke.
Rape allegations have to be taken very seriously and now they've been publicly made I'm sure the police will.
The point I was making is his behaviour, while portraying him as a lecherous promiscuous ****, doesn't make him a rapist. Forcing a woman to have sex against her will or without her knowledge, as in a drunken stupor through drink and/or drugs does. In the documentary that has been alleged. Now let due process take place.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Okay a big ****. Not a nice person. Same as Mendy was in his treatment of women. It didn't make him a rapist though as two separate juries found him not guilty. The same as Brand isn't until legally convicted, in spite of the lynch mob having him already hanged. For the hard of hearing and the ones who get outraged at sections of my post, right at the start I said it wasn't a defence of Brand. Does he come across as a narcissist, a vile person and has he treated women like throwaway commodities in the past? Yes without a doubt. Do I find that behaviour acceptable? Absolutely not. Sadly, If such behaviour was worthy of a prison sentence there wouldn't be enough space to hold everyone.

Rape is an entirely different kettle of fish, but until he's legally convicted of such Brand is, or was, just a not very nice person who used his looks, fame and power to sleep with lots of women.

Genuine question: was Jimmy Saville just a not very nice person who used his television persona and regular access to sexually abuse lots of children?

 

[SebastianBlue]

Thanks. People read a post, see snippets of it and start frothing at the mouth, without taking it all into context. Right at the start I said I wasn't defending the bloke.
Rape allegations have to be taken very seriously and now they've been publicly made I'm sure the police will.
The point I was making is his behaviour, while portraying him as a lecherous promiscuous ****, doesn't make him a rapist. Forcing a woman to have sex against her will or without her knowledge, as in a drunken stupor through drink and/or drugs does. In the documentary that has been alleged. Now let due process take place.

To be fair, I responded to your post in it’s entirety, referencing every element, respectfully.

I don’t think you responded, though, I may have missed it.