Dispatches/Sunday Times investigation: Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

It seems to me so far that the more serious allegations happened over in the States. If it starts to snowball and come on top for him with the possibility of criminal charges, I wonder if he'll take a leaf out of that nonce Roman Polanksi's book, do a runner, and live in countries that don't have an extradition treaty with America!
 
Lots of other accusers coming out now. Methinks he is finished whether charged or not.
 
M18CTID said:
As I expected. This will give other women the confidence to come forward.
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More often than not, for me, when other women come forward after the initial story breaks, that tends to be the tell. If 3 or 4 women come forward and then it snowballs in the weeks afterwards you can quietly assume (even if it's just to yourself) that even if the accused doesn't end up behind bars, a little mark will forever hang over them.

That's not to say a lack of supporting allegations means the accused is innocent, but for example I've always been largely sympathetic over what happened to Aziz Ansari, which (with full hindsight) just sounded like a bad date with some confused communication. Nobody else came forward, it was just a bad night that sort of cost him his career.

But this with Russell clearly isn't a one-time thing. It's repeated incidents with women who don't know each other, haven't met each other, and haven't coordinated any of this. And now there are more and more incidents being reported on, the details of which we'll find out about soon. Said on Saturday to my partner, this isn't the end.

Cos as much as the documentary focused on the 4/5 women who had already come forward, there were loads of allusions to him seeking out female audience members at various shows he hosted, and other things like that. I imagine enough of them have stories to tell for these new accusations to be taken very, very seriously.
 
inbetween said:
When it comes to an alleged crime there is no room for expression of opinion on guilt. The same could be said for the opinions on Benjamin Mendy who as it turns out was found not guilty and now his career is ruined.

I'm sorry but this is completely mad, this isn't about taking sides, taking sides is stupid and completely unnecessary.

Every normal person is on the side of the women involved but at the minute those claims are unproven. Beyond supporting those women the only side we should be on is the side of finding truth. The only way to find truth is in court, that's why it exists.

If we only consider one side and presume guilt then quite literally any person in the street can have their life ruined and is that okay? The law thankfully protects everyone from this by presuming everyone is innocent until proven otherwise.
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There is nowhere that I've said I presumed guilt.

My point was that assuming innocence, just because it's not gone to court IS taking sides.

I am suggesting that's a ridiculous standard, particularly in a situation where we know that most rapes won't result in a conviction.
 
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