Do the red scouse want it more than us?

Didsbury Dave said:
Lancet Fluke said:
Didsbury Dave said:
But they are having an Incredible run in an incredible season, totally out of the blue after years of failure. This is their 98-99 season, whereas for us we expect to be challenging for the title and are slightly flat that it seems to have nearly gone. If you go on their forum there's a huge thread about their atmosphere which mirrors the dozens you get on here: no singing, all old men, what happened to the Kop passion etc. it's only the last half dozen games which have seen them lift it. We would have done the same if it were us, like in 99 when we went on that run to the playoffs, and it felt like the club were rising from the dead.

And the thread questions whether the fans and the players 'want it'. It's the sort of clichéd sentiment which irks me, a bit like all this 'playing for the shirt' nonsense. If Liverpool 'want it' too much against Chelsea nerves can get the better of them of and them blow it. I'm sure they are all desperate to win the title, but I think our lads are too.
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I accept pretty much all that you say and as I have said I completely realise that it has only happened since they have realised that they are in with a big shout for the title ie over the last 4-6 weeks. I also think, as someone else has said, that it is inevitable that they will be more excited in the sense that they haven't won it for 24 years and we won it 24 months ago. I'm not saying there aren't excuses/reasons but it is a reality that at the moment our ground is very quiet and theirs is very loud so I think it is reasonable for the OP to ask the question. I still think the levels of apathy in the stands at our ground are an issue though. I'm not one generally for telling people they shouldn't leave early or that kind of thing, it pisses me off when people start off all that but then over recent games I have been astonished at how few people bother to turn up for kick off and how many leave early and how many just sit in silence and only bother to open their mouths to grumble. I have no idea what the answer is but whichever way you cut it, it isn't great and it certainly isn't going to give the team any kind of boost. The only point that I would take issue with you is that you are saying that things are flat because we are seeing that the title is nearly gone. Well it has nearly gone now but it hadn't at the start of that Sunderland game, we were still right in the thick of things but I was genuinely shocked by what I perceived as being apathy both on the pitch and in the stands that night. It doesn't matter what had happened at Anfield, the Sunderland match was not good enough in any respect imo. If I am wrong and it was because the players are just knackered after a demanding season then that's fair enough, it is difficult from the side to know what is lack of desire and what is physical tiredness and I may have jumped to wrong conclusions about the players in that match. And I also accept that there has probably been lots of introspection on here since then and people are probably getting introspection fatigue but tbh I have not read most of that, I have tended to keep myself to other threads over the last week or so. I don't think I have even looked at the Pellegrini thread since Anfield. I haven't been able to face it.
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I don't think we are too far away from each other in our opinions, mate. I wasn't at the Sunderland game so can't comment, but others have been flat. But at the risk of repeating myself, apart from on a very few occasions it's always been like that at the new stadium. It is a problem that can be largely cured with the new stand. If the stadium has one loud voice, instead of two quiet ones, lots more people will join in a lot more often.

We've always been a nervous and tense fanbase, too, after years of unpredictability.

You are wise to stay away from the Mancini thread. Fear, loathing and insanity still lurks there ;-)
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How and why do you think modelling our stadium into an exact mirror copy of the emirates is going to improve the atmosphere at home games and encourage season ticket holders to turn up to matches during a title run in?
 
City Hobgoblin said:
Despite being all seated, the Kop still has the ability to generate atmosphere similar to the past. Seems to be a more collectively committed body of fans, in one large mass behind the goal.
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If thats the case why don't we just build a big kop at the end of one of the goals at the Etihad instead of modelling our ground to be the exact same as the emirates which is famous for its poor atmosphere?
 
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