Do you give a toss about England?

Don't know who there playing.
I don't no who's in the squad.
And I really don't fucking care
 
I don't give a toss about England but I'm from northern Ireland and support them as much as city. Think it's the fact that regardless of opposition anything apart from a lost is a solid result and even in defeat we can usually find something to be positive about. Meanwhile England is full of players picked because of who the play for and not how well they are playing, the pressure on the players is crazy as they are expected to win every match, if they don't it's the end of the world according to the media and unfortunately they aren't as good as they are made out to be but the future is bright with a lot of young talent coming though stones, sterling, butland, dele and that rag lad have the potential to be world beaters IMO.
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
Surely the reason why so many people don't give a shit is due to the number of Rag players who get in the team simply because of who they play for and not on merit .

There have been so many examples that it just becomes farcical and totally devalues the award of an international cap .

Every fucking Rag is heralded as world class or the next ( fill in the name ) despite being no better than average , and supporters are expected to buy the shit peddled by the media just to appease the hoardes of United loving lemmings.

If we ever get a manager who just ignores the Rag players who just aren't good enough , there might just be some interest shown in the national team .

I mean Tom fucking Cleverley for example - and similar tells you all you need to know.
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Pathetic reason. I hate Tottenham. Last Euro's they had loads of players playing for England. Didn't bother me one bit.
 
squirtyflower said:
It wasn't just about who they played for, it was the fact they were shit too and if played for someone else would get nowhere near the England team
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No England manager can win. That's why I give up caring who's playing. Just get behind them for the match.
Man U fans will no doubt be in uproar when Hart, Stones and Sterling are playing. Just like City fans uproar when Rooney, Smalling etc get in the team. It should totally be up to the manager - if he wants 11 Man U players the good for him... If he wants to pick 11 players from Accrington Stanley then great. Let him decide!!! All fans,pundits and Media have different opinions, different tactics, formations and who should play or not and its now become a national pastime for English fans to go absolutely mental everytime the squad is announced.
 
I care if I thInk the players care and the manager cares enough to pick players based on merit and not on dogmatic adherence to marketing requirements or establishment expectations.

So recently that falls into the No camp.
 
It's difficult to get behind a team Bluehammer, when players care more about the domestic game than the international scene, it's not just the players who feel that way it's the fans too. Back in the late 90's it was pretty common for United players to pull out then miraculously turn up in their next fixture.

Now we have a fat fuck United player who has been dump for England (yeah he can score penalties) goes straight back into the lineup and captain.

When people were agonising about Lineker and Beardsley's age, it didn't matter a fuck, we had Shearer, Cole, Ferdinand, Fowler, Wright coming through, we had a predicament of Sutton refusing to play because they put him in the England B team, now Sutton would be on that first team sheet with Kane.

I remember fans getting excited seeing the likes of Lee Hendrie and Steve Stone come off the bench, now they see someone like Milner and rather go back to the concourse and order a bag of Monster Munch Pickled Onion flavour.

There was a time I'd pick England to win a world cup/Euro over Spurs winning the league, but not in a million years now. I don't really care too much about the international team and I'm sure that's like a lot of the country, the fact we can't even sell out Wembley anymore speaks volumes. We could sell out playing Chile and Columbia 20 years ago
 
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