Do you give a toss about England?

If England win 4-0 with an exciting type of play, and as a team. They'll still shoehorn the **** in for the jocks game.

You mean like after the Germany and Dutch friendlies. Looked like a decent side, for a change.
Then along came the Euros and Rooney must play in there somewhere.
 
Regardless of whether England are actually any good or not, the bloated size of these competitions and the ridiculous seedings have completely killed qualifying as any kind of spectacle. I've not bothered watching one for ages because the outcome is pretty much guaranteed (even for a terrible England side). Would be good for international football (and, in the long term, for the England team) if some of the bigger names met more often in competitive games, like Italy vs Spain the other day.
Totally agree mate
 
Fair play southgate, he's shown a bit of bottle to drop Rooney; hopefully England put in a good performance against Slovenia and win and show that he is not needed
 

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