Do you like trains?

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Grassland Blue said:
I agree that the train is expensive to use, however I don't think that it would be significantly less costly to use if it were re-nationalised.
It would though, be more co-ordinated and reliable imo.
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Just a follow up on this. Was going to drive to Reading (due to the £120 cost of a ticket) and the night before, down the pub, a colleague told me to split the ticket (Brum-Leamington Spa-Banbury-Reading & back) which I did and it was fifty fucking quid. About 40% of the price of the original. Absolutely outrageous and surely you wouldn’t get such anomalies if re-nationalisation occurred.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Just a follow up on this. Was going to drive to Reading (due to the £120 cost of a ticket) and the night before, down the pub, a colleague told me to split the ticket (Brum-Leamington Spa-Banbury-Reading & back) which I did and it was fifty fucking quid. About 40% of the price of the original. Absolutely outrageous and surely you wouldn’t get such anomalies if re-nationalisation occurred.
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A knock on effect of Thatcherism.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Just a follow up on this. Was going to drive to Reading (due to the £120 cost of a ticket) and the night before, down the pub, a colleague told me to split the ticket (Brum-Leamington Spa-Banbury-Reading & back) which I did and it was fifty fucking quid. About 40% of the price of the original. Absolutely outrageous and surely you wouldn’t get such anomalies if re-nationalisation occurred.
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No you wouldn't, you would pay £140. I have been on a nationalised railway system, it is not something I ever want to return to.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I clearly wouldn't pay £140 as I've already indicated that £120 was enough to compel me to drive! :-)
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I was focussing on your point about the anomaly in the pricing system wouldn't happen on a nationalised rail system. I was agreeing with you but making the point that it would be even dearer once a certain political party got its hands on it.
 
Blue Mist said:
I was focussing on your point about the anomaly in the pricing system wouldn't happen on a nationalised rail system. I was agreeing with you but making the point that it would be even dearer once a certain political party got its hands on it.
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Ok, well I disagree. I think price rises would be much harder to justify if the railway network’s ‘means of production’ were in public ownership.

I also disagree about your analysis of British Rail (assuming that was what you were referring to). I think trains were ok under BR. I used to get the train every day as a kid, pretty much throughout the eighties, so I speak with some experience, albeit from a young person’s perspective. Lots of things didn’t work as well as they do now, thirty plus years ago. I think the railways run centrally, with today’s technology, could deliver an efficient service. Being publicly owned doesn’t have to mean inefficient - many public services are delivered efficiently; I see it every working day (although I accept there is much waste in the public sector).

It’s ultimately down to the systems and the people. You need people who care about what they do

I think we could definitely find some seriously brilliant people who love the railways to run it, and run it well.
 
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