Do you support the RMT?

Eds said:
Whoever can make decisions on all sides need to sit in a locked room and not let out until an agreement has been reached. Been going on for far too long now.
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The RDG puppets are directed as and when they can speak to the unions and what they are allowed to discuss.

Lynch and Whelan' have both offered an intense period of negotiations that the government has rejected.

The dispute is now ideological on the government's behalf.

They are deliberately stalling to push through the trade union act then use it to destroy our employment and union bargaining rights.

I'm sure when Mick is interviewed tomorrow he will ask them the same question I've asked the union.

The latest offer RDG guaranteed 5% unconditionally if the union agreed to go back to discussing the changes at their individual companies.

Members asked the union to get this confirmed as we don't trust the bastards.

They came back by saying we'll now only give you the 5% if you call the whole dispute off and agree not to strike again if they fail to agree with their TOC.

It's obvious from that the transport secretary directed that change in position. Now we've got a new and stronger ballot for action. And hopefully some coordination with ASLEF to get them back around the table to sort it.

I'd rather be in work tomorrow than standing on a picket line and they nearly got that until Harper and the ideologues decided they'd rather spend nearly a hundred million of taxpayer obey to destroy unions than reach settlement.
 
As an aside, just been out for a walk passing under the railway just south of Stafford.
Observed a couple of freight trains, who's drivers aren't involved in the strike today, and thought to myself that it must be great driving freight trains today without any pesky passenger trains to get in the way!
 
staffsblue said:
As an aside, just been out for a walk passing under the railway just south of Stafford.
Observed a couple of freight trains, who's drivers aren't involved in the strike today, and thought to myself that it must be great driving freight trains today without any pesky passenger trains to get in the way!
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It was always a thing that we could run a decent railway if it wasn't for the passengers!
 
Once these bunch of parasites are kicked out of office. They should be forced to reimburse the public purse for all the money they have wasted on dragging out this dispute for cynical reasons. Take it out of their parliamentary pensions if necessary. And put an unlimited fine on the Tory party and bankrupt them.

Never again should these cunts be trusted with public services, the economy, people's livelihoods and lives.
 
When were on strike the TOCs are reimbursed with our taxpayer money for their daily losses and they bank the pay that all the strikers will have scarified as well.

They are paying "contingency staff" 4 times my daily wage to work on strike days.

That's our tax money being used to break action.


They can do it on strike days. Yet never have enough money to pay front line staff, some who are just above minimum wage a proper living wage with a decent work life balance.

As I've said before. This dispute is being portrayed about being all about pay. Now it's about keeping our jobs.

I won't agree to deal which is fire and rehire on a poor contract with my terms and conditions ripped apart.

This is what the DFT want. They want to put us back on BR conditions without the supplements and bonuses that came with it that people used to do to keep above water.

They created this situation when they privatised the railways. Tens of thousands took redundancies and it led to a mass shortage of skilled railway workers.

They had to renegotiate with the unions and we got a good deal. With many taking the money and then being given a golden welcome to come back!

It's their mess. Rather than collaborate to create a railway the UK can be proud of they just want to run a public service that makes private profits at the detriment to both the passengers and the staff that work on it.
 
TinFoilHat said:
When were on strike the TOCs are reimbursed with our taxpayer money for their daily losses and they bank the pay that all the strikers will have scarified as well.

They are paying "contingency staff" 4 times my daily wage to work on strike days.

That's our tax money being used to break action.


They can do it on strike days. Yet never have enough money to pay front line staff, some who are just above minimum wage a proper living wage with a decent work life balance.

As I've said before. This dispute is being portrayed about being all about pay. Now it's about keeping our jobs.

I won't agree to deal which is fire and rehire on a poor contract with my terms and conditions ripped apart.

This is what the DFT want. They want to put us back on BR conditions without the supplements and bonuses that came with it that people used to do to keep above water.

They created this situation when they privatised the railways. Tens of thousands took redundancies and it led to a mass shortage of skilled railway workers.

They had to renegotiate with the unions and we got a good deal. With many taking the money and then being given a golden welcome to come back!

It's their mess. Rather than collaborate to create a railway the UK can be proud of they just want to run a public service that makes private profits at the detriment to both the passengers and the staff that work on it.
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Too true. Very well said.
 
TinFoilHat said:
When were on strike the TOCs are reimbursed with our taxpayer money for their daily losses and they bank the pay that all the strikers will have scarified as well.

They are paying "contingency staff" 4 times my daily wage to work on strike days.

That's our tax money being used to break action.


They can do it on strike days. Yet never have enough money to pay front line staff, some who are just above minimum wage a proper living wage with a decent work life balance.

As I've said before. This dispute is being portrayed about being all about pay. Now it's about keeping our jobs.

I won't agree to deal which is fire and rehire on a poor contract with my terms and conditions ripped apart.

This is what the DFT want. They want to put us back on BR conditions without the supplements and bonuses that came with it that people used to do to keep above water.

They created this situation when they privatised the railways. Tens of thousands took redundancies and it led to a mass shortage of skilled railway workers.

They had to renegotiate with the unions and we got a good deal. With many taking the money and then being given a golden welcome to come back!

It's their mess. Rather than collaborate to create a railway the UK can be proud of they just want to run a public service that makes private profits at the detriment to both the passengers and the staff that work on it.
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An excellent post.

Some of those bonus schemes were quite bizarre, based on factors like cleanliness of stations.

And vacancies deliberately left vacant to boost overtime earnings - some signalmen were working 12 hours a day (or night) for weeks on end.

(Do the unions still sit down with managers to work out train crew rosters? That always seemed a good way to ensure the rosters worked well.)

Of course privatisation was one of the reasons driver pay increased when the different companies had to compete for the same drivers who would previously just been paid the same BR rate but with the best bonuses going to the more experienced drivers (the "top link").
 
Vic said:
An excellent post.

Some of those bonus schemes were quite bizarre, based on factors like cleanliness of stations.

And vacancies deliberately left vacant to boost overtime earnings - some signalmen were working 12 hours a day (or night) for weeks on end.

(Do the unions still sit down with managers to work out train crew rosters? That always seemed a good way to ensure the rosters worked well.)

Of course privatisation was one of the reasons driver pay increased when the different companies had to compete for the same drivers who would previously just been paid the same BR rate but with the best bonuses going to the more experienced drivers (the "top link").
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We still negotiate rosters and got it in the contracts set rest days patterns to create a work/life balance.

Naturally that's one of the things they want to take off us.
 
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