Do you support the RMT?

Vic said:
Frankly, if you haven't allowed time for a train to be cancelled or a connection missed, it's a risk at the best of times. But LNER seem to have run OK today so 19th would probably be no different.

I assume you've got an Advance ticket rather than an open ticket. If the train is from Edinburgh, you're going to know if it's running over two hours before it's due at York, so just go for an earlier train. Advance ticket conditions 8.4:
"If the train you purchased a ticket for is cancelled or is delayed and you still decide to travel, special arrangements will be made to accommodate you on another train (although a seat cannot be guaranteed)."
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Cheers. Problem is it's the earliest train of the day and the only one that will get me there on time for the next connection, so I can't get an earlier or later one (unless I switch it to the day before and overnight in London). It's Grand Central rather than LNER.

I might just buy a cheap ticket for the day before, just in case my early morning one is likely to be affected. At least that way I'll have a couple of options.
 
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KnaresboroughBlue said:
Cheers. Problem is it's the earliest train of the day and the only one that will get me there on time for the next connection, so I can't get an earlier or later one (unless I switch it to the day before and overnight in London). It's Grand Central rather than LNER.

I might just buy a cheap ticket for the day before, just in case my early morning one is likely to be affected. At least that way I'll have a couple of options.
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Grand Central not affected by Aslef strike. If it's cancelled for other reasons (it's 20 mins late today) that clause 8.4 means they should put you on a LNER train rather than wait for the next GC.

I hope you've left enough time for the post-Brexit check in times for Eurostar.
 
Vic said:
Grand Central not affected by Aslef strike. If it's cancelled for other reasons (it's 20 mins late today) that clause 8.4 means they should put you on a LNER train rather than wait for the next GC.

I hope you've left enough time for the post-Brexit check in times for Eurostar.
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Cheers. Good to hear Grand Central shouldn't be affected by the ASLEF strike.

It's a journey a do quite frequently so always make sure I have at least a couple of hours between all connections.
 
Blue Maverick said:
@Stephen230 so what would happen now if these come in and no staff there, get in train and pay if asked, this was my point, no one can force you to have an app, if the machine is broke then you get on, I’m nit trying to be awkward but have a look at the metro I guarantee 50% don’t pay and take the chance, I don’t by the way I pay.
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If there is no way of paying beforehand, working machine, open ticket office etc. then no, they can’t penalise you for getting on without a ticket, as long as you pay at the first opportunity.

I thought we were talking about people who had the opportunity and declined it and when challenged then said they’d buy one on their phone.
 
bluethrunthru said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Nearly every rail station ticket office set to shut within three years

The Rail Delivery Group is speeding up proposals to shut up to 1,000 railway station ticket offices across Britain in a move likely to prompt more strikes from unions and further woe for passengers.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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I know some companies like Northern Rail are under government control. But for the rest, how can the government announce that private businesses have got to do anything? Isn’t it up to them whether they want to keep their ticket offices open or not?
 
Not like the Tories to tell the press before the RMT or even Parliament eh?

Senior reps of all TOCs called to an emergency meeting today where they will be given all the legal documentation for the "consultation" to close the majority of booking offices and have staff replaced by "journey makers" on temporary, possibly agency contracts to "ebb and flow with peak travel"

According to the puppets who are being dictated to by the DFT this will give the industry "much needed modernisation"

So saving on pensions contributions and other staff perks meaning more money for the stakeholders over running a sensible passenger service that works for both the public it's supposed to serve and the permanent staff that provide the service.
 
Stephen230 said:
I know some companies like Northern Rail are under government control. But for the rest, how can the government announce that private businesses have got to do anything? Isn’t it up to them whether they want to keep their ticket offices open or not?
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We are at the end game there are no rules its scorched earth all the way - they will spend 12 months like Operation Barbarossa

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TinFoilHat said:




Proof in the document it has been done of spite rather than negotiate.


Also any appeals to keep ticket offices open will only be heard by the transport secretary. The person who's dictating this proposal and what he wants from it.
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If we are told rail use is back above pre-pandemic levels then how can we trust the figure of 30% reduced revenue to be true

www.intelligenttransport.com

UK rail passenger numbers exceed pre-pandemic levels

The UK rail industry marks a successful post-pandemic recovery passenger, as passenger levels reach 103% of pre-COVID levels.
www.intelligenttransport.com www.intelligenttransport.com
 
www.rmt.org.uk

Save Ticket Offices

Over the last year the RMT has been campaigning against the DfT managed train companies’ plans for wholesale ticket office closures. The result has been the largest ever response to a government consultation. On October 31, 2023 the government announced the plans had been dropped.
www.rmt.org.uk

Some TOCs have "accidentally" put fake scan codes on their official public consultation notice.
 
Oldham Exile said:
Don't think so.....

In this world of 2023 - how can there be a sensible case for striking to keep ticket offices open - weird!!
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Yep, weird that people in ticket offices would try to keep their jobs.
Why would anyone in their right mind want to protect their livelihood; their income; their future, their children’s future; put food on the table; pay the mortgage? Crazy idea.
 
Vic said:
Why would anyone use Trainline and pay commission?
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People do.

They are then mis sold tickets which registered when scanned and charged again.

I tell people not to use it however it seems to have become the standard contractor as they do what we call our friends and family tickets allocations now.


Private Eye has alleged that someone in the DFT is banging one of the board at the Trainline.
 
johnnytapia said:
Yep, weird that people in ticket offices would try to keep their jobs.
Why would anyone in their right mind want to protect their livelihood; their income; their future, their children’s future; put food on the table; pay the mortgage? Crazy idea.
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Can't they all just get other jobs? After all, ballerinas can become computer programmers, or arc welders or deep sea divers according to the government a few years back.
Perhaps they can pick fruit; I'm sure the training will be quick.
 
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