Does Yaya still have a role?

[Dax777]

What about what he did after his brother died. You have been defending this piece of shit for a long time. How do you defend using the death of your younger brother to get a move/payraise?

I don't think I do that.

 

[nmc]

Mancini: "We [Inter] had almost sealed Yaya's purchase a year ago, then he preferred not to betray Manchester City, where I took him."
Mancini: "Toure, like Ibra, is one of those players who can make the difference, who can change the outcome of a season by themselves."


As much as i love bobby he must be talking about the yaya he remembers and not like he is now

So the clubs having agreed a fee for the transfer - Yaya and his agent realized they'd be out of pocket by moving so Yaya backed out and decided to dedicate a year to walking football and increasing his body mass index.

 

[Brendan110_0]

You won't find anyone on here that hates Yaya more than me...but we gave him the contract. He is not stealing a living; he is seeing out his contract. As a ridiculously rich man, it does seem odd that he wants to piss away what's left of his career but that is his call...and honestly is anyone surprised considering his character?

Hate Yaya? Seriously? Give your head a wobble! Sometimes I do wonder about the mental state of some City fans.

 

[Phil1]

Hate Yaya? Seriously? Give your head a wobble! Sometimes I do wonder about the mental state of some City fans.

Yep, pandering to a man like a love sick puppy after he's spent two years taking the piss. I often wonder myself.

 

[Nocle]

He is not stealing a living; he is seeing out his contract.

Yes but in the summer he was actively looking for other clubs and then something changed.

Did City put a block on him going to another English club and he threw his toys out of the pram?

I don't believe the article in the Mail.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Not that he'll give two solid gold shits but he'll never go down as a legend for me.

Describing the City greats of yesteryear to my grandkids, when I'd get to Yaya I'd have to to prefix it with "he was a bit of a **** but..."

So I'll leave it out. Some of the best performances I've seen in a City shirt and some great goals, same as Tevez. But 'legend' is a term I'll reserve for players who do that whilst conducting themselves as anything other than a knob.

His god complex would have been far better suited to that 'team' being built down the road.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I love the way every time Mancini says something pretty straightforward like for instance 'I signed Rodwell' people decide it's not really what he meant, as it doesn't fit their argument.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

Daily mirror setting new low standard s in journalism the headline yaya toures agent mino raiola slams pep.
Its been up for an hour now wonder when they will spot it ?

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

You won't find anyone on here that hates Yaya more than me...but we gave him the contract. He is not stealing a living; he is seeing out his contract. As a ridiculously rich man, it does seem odd that he wants to piss away what's left of his career but that is his call...and honestly is anyone surprised considering his character?

Never said I hate Yaya. He is stealing a living IMO, as he has had the chance to go elsewhere, but chose not to, knowing he'd have very little opportunity to play under Pep this season.

I've said enough on this topic at the moment, nothing else to say right now.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

You won't find anyone on here that hates Yaya more than me...but we gave him the contract. He is not stealing a living; he is seeing out his contract. As a ridiculously rich man, it does seem odd that he wants to piss away what's left of his career but that is his call...and honestly is anyone surprised considering his character?

Hates? How can anyone hate Yaya?

Fair enough disagree with his motives or his actions, but hate?

And to be fair to him, he did tell us he wanted to leave two years ago so it's not like we didn't have any warning about the last two seasons. His legs have gone, he knew it two years ago, that title winning season will have taken a lot out of him as he knew it was his swansong and he put everything into it, he was immense but that was the end. He went a strange way of telling us he wanted to leave and the club refused. That's the club's fault, not Yaya's!

 

[forevermancity]

Edit..comments were made my zlatans agent not yaya's..sorry!

 

[Neville Kneville]

Hates? How can anyone hate Yaya?

Fair enough disagree with his motives or his actions, but hate?

And to be fair to him, he did tell us he wanted to leave two years ago so it's not like we didn't have any warning about the last two seasons. His legs have gone, he knew it two years ago, that title winning season will have taken a lot out of him as he knew it was his swansong and he put everything into it, he was immense but that was the end. He went a strange way of telling us he wanted to leave and the club refused. That's the club's fault, not Yaya's!

When we won that title, Souness was on & they showed replays of Yaya bulldozing away from opponents etc. Souness basically said, City need to redefine the way Yaya plays. He said that, from his own experience, when you reach Yaya's age, you can't continue to do what he was doing & that he's a very special player & that City need to look after him.

Pellegrini played him in the same role for two more years, even if it regularly cost us points. Same again the week after, over & over & over. No attempt whatsoever to see if Yaya could do a different job & the team formation could be rejigged. Just hang him out to dry week in week out.

He may not suit Pep's plans because of the unique way he plays, but Yaya's performances over the last couple of seasons (where he's still been one of our better players) have resulted from a clueless manager throwing him to the wolves & asking him to do stuff he can't do.

He should have been either protected & valued or sold, not made to look a ****, outnumbered in midfield vs a bunch of younger players.

I don't think he'd have the slightest problem right now, playing for City, if Pep decided he wanted to use him & protected him tactically. If Pep doesn't fancy that, then it's his choice. Unlikely he will ask Yaya to leg it around as if he was 22, vs top 6 teams, like that con man did.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

Daily mirror setting new low standard s in journalism the headline yaya toures agent mino raiola slams pep.
Its been up for an hour now wonder when they will spot it ?

The good news is the daily mirror has amended its headline to zlatan agent!!
They literally are making stuff up,is nothing proof read or checked before being published that was just a very very basic thing to check up on

 

[schfc6]

'False 9' Saturday?

That would spark confusion everywhere.

He'd be quite handy at the front post too..

 

[MCFC_Guardiola]

Zlatan,Mandukic, Ribery, Seluk, Raiola. all these Pep haters have a common denominator; cnuts

 

[BlueDeadHead]

I don't think I do that.

So you defend his character in general but not for select issues?

 

[BlueDeadHead]

Hates? How can anyone hate Yaya?

Fair enough disagree with his motives or his actions, but hate?

And to be fair to him, he did tell us he wanted to leave two years ago so it's not like we didn't have any warning about the last two seasons. His legs have gone, he knew it two years ago, that title winning season will have taken a lot out of him as he knew it was his swansong and he put everything into it, he was immense but that was the end. He went a strange way of telling us he wanted to leave and the club refused. That's the club's fault, not Yaya's!

My feelings on Yaya and his brother are pretty clear. If you don't think his actions on that issue deserve hatred then we will leave it at that. It was an unconscionable thing he did. I have never heard of any athlete stooping so low. How anyone can be a fan of his regardless of what he did on the field for us after that incident is beyond me.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

When we won that title, Souness was on & they showed replays of Yaya bulldozing away from opponents etc. Souness basically said, City need to redefine the way Yaya plays. He said that, from his own experience, when you reach Yaya's age, you can't continue to do what he was doing & that he's a very special player & that City need to look after him.

Pellegrini played him in the same role for two more years, even if it regularly cost us points. Same again the week after, over & over & over. No attempt whatsoever to see if Yaya could do a different job & the team formation could be rejigged. Just hang him out to dry week in week out.

He may not suit Pep's plans because of the unique way he plays, but Yaya's performances over the last couple of seasons (where he's still been one of our better players) have resulted from a clueless manager throwing him to the wolves & asking him to do stuff he can't do.

He should have been either protected & valued or sold, not made to look a ****, outnumbered in midfield vs a bunch of younger players.

I don't think he'd have the slightest problem right now, playing for City, if Pep decided he wanted to use him & protected him tactically. If Pep doesn't fancy that, then it's his choice. Unlikely he will ask Yaya to leg it around as if he was 22, vs top 6 teams, like that con man did.

You can't tailor a whole team just to suit one player. Although i agree with you, that Pellegrini didn't help.

 

[Dax777]

So you defend his character in general but not for select issues?

I don't defend his character at all. I defend what's right. The right to collect what you have earned via contract. Without some fan selectively snickering about your choice. The same right Joe earned by signing a contract and the club paying a majority of his salary while he plays for someone else.

I point out the double standards on such matters. Whether it's Yaya now or Wayne Bridge few years ago.

Many here make silly comments like some player is stealing a wage. As if these players put a gun to Txiki's head when he signed them (and I use Txiki metaphorically to represent management).
Before someone shows up to point out the obvious that Txiki didn't sign Bridge and thus I'm wrong in this instance. :P

The point here being I don't defend players, I defend understable positions. Don't particularly care much for Yaya petulance with refs on the field or his agent's. Never have, nor do I defend them. But I don't pretend they are of much consequence either.

So I don't use it as an excuse to gin up unwarranted hate or dislike. I know what Yaya is. A surly, brooding, chip on his shoulders and big man with an overbearing father like figure of an agent. Yet I loved every minute of his greatness here. I loved how the chip on his shoulder made him believe he and by extension City was better than United even before we truly became better. I loved the seeming immeasurabiIity of his talent at his peak. I liked him slapping Mata upside the head, telling Valencia to get lost and telling Rooney not to talk to him. I hated his constant whinning to the ref when he clearly just committed a foul, his laziness on defense sometimes. I take him for what he is.

I don't defend him, just like I don't defend the club when it does shitty things either. I didn't defend Marwood calling out an ex players cancer striker Mom. I don't defend wrong acts. Period. I just say what they are and what real effects I think if any they have in the greater scheme of things.

Anyway this has now turned into a rant :)

 

[Marvin]

'False 9' Saturday?

That would spark confusion everywhere.

He'd be quite handy at the front post too..

I trust this is a joke?