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I suspect he's trying to appear "tough on Russia" before the midterms after appearing to be on his knees giving Putin a hummer a few months ago.

Of course he could soft-peddle and back-channel this, not yank himself out of the agreement, but it doesn't fit his style when can leverage it for political gain (or to backfill after losing political face).

It's also not quite fair to blame Obama for "ignoring" this when (a) he didn't and (b) the NATO report confirming the violation was released just recently. Once again, political gain, fingerpointing and his usual bullshit.

Having said all that, is he right to accuse them and criticize them? Do I believe him this time? Probably, because when it comes to American interests I trust Russia less than I trust him.

And Europeans should care given this is all about missiles that can hit you all.

More a personal than a European opinion to be honest. I've never for a moment been scared about the prospect of a nuclear war. It would never happen. You can't win a war by suiciding yourself and ultimately every country wants to win the war, on whatever terms their war may be.

I put it in the same area of asteroids and gamma ray bursts. Sure it COULD happen, but the chances are so low that it's pointless to really think too much about it.
 
He's responding to Russia and China both developing medium range weapons which in Russia's case is in clear breach of the agreement.

Option 2 would be to do and say nothing.

I'm with Trump on this one.
I agree he is absolutely correct to respond to Russian actions. Whether publicly pulling out of the treaty rather than using other diplomatic channels is the best response is another question.
 
More a personal than a European opinion to be honest. I've never for a moment been scared about the prospect of a nuclear war. It would never happen. You can't win a war by suiciding yourself and ultimately every country wants to win the war, on whatever terms their war may be.

I put it in the same area of asteroids and gamma ray bursts. Sure it COULD happen, but the chances are so low that it's pointless to really think too much about it.

Me too. Hysteria. Silly. Besides, I have other catastrophic disasters to worry about. Like earthquakes. Or Fernandinho tearing an ACL.
 
Don't know if this will speak to any here. But sometimes it seems like this thread touches on the idea of how best to communicate. Communication can involve listening.
Perhaps we try to listen so as to try understand, then respond. Or maybe not. But is it possible that, through a willingness to listen, one might come to be aware of an 'inner soundscape' which interferes with the ability to truly listen? Maybe this involves the noise of the mind and/or the turbulence of emotions. Yet beyond this can be found a clarity of listening. In this way,one might listen just with the thinking mind - perhaps with it's preconceptions whether positive/negative or correct/incorrect. Or one might listen with the storm of emotions - fear, anger etc. Yet beyond this what if there is the ability to listen with clarity? In this way it might feel that someone is not speaking from truth, then one might see, for example, that someone might deny saying something whilst there is also video of them saying that same thing. Might be an idea not to support this. Or one might feel that someone is coming from truth and the policy they are speaking of makes sense. Supporting this might be a great idea.
 
Don't know if this will speak to any here. But sometimes it seems like this thread touches on the idea of how best to communicate. Communication can involve listening.
Perhaps we try to listen so as to try understand, then respond. Or maybe not. But is it possible that, through a willingness to listen, one might come to be aware of an 'inner soundscape' which interferes with the ability to truly listen? Maybe this involves the noise of the mind and/or the turbulence of emotions. Yet beyond this can be found a clarity of listening. In this way,one might listen just with the thinking mind - perhaps with it's preconceptions whether positive/negative or correct/incorrect. Or one might listen with the storm of emotions - fear, anger etc. Yet beyond this what if there is the ability to listen with clarity? In this way it might feel that someone is not speaking from truth, then one might see, for example, that someone might deny saying something whilst there is also video of them saying that same thing. Might be an idea not to support this. Or one might feel that someone is coming from truth and the policy they are speaking of makes sense. Supporting this might be a great idea.

Send us a pm with your dealers number mate:-)
 
Don't know if this will speak to any here. But sometimes it seems like this thread touches on the idea of how best to communicate. Communication can involve listening.
Perhaps we try to listen so as to try understand, then respond. Or maybe not. But is it possible that, through a willingness to listen, one might come to be aware of an 'inner soundscape' which interferes with the ability to truly listen? Maybe this involves the noise of the mind and/or the turbulence of emotions. Yet beyond this can be found a clarity of listening. In this way,one might listen just with the thinking mind - perhaps with it's preconceptions whether positive/negative or correct/incorrect. Or one might listen with the storm of emotions - fear, anger etc. Yet beyond this what if there is the ability to listen with clarity? In this way it might feel that someone is not speaking from truth, then one might see, for example, that someone might deny saying something whilst there is also video of them saying that same thing. Might be an idea not to support this. Or one might feel that someone is coming from truth and the policy they are speaking of makes sense. Supporting this might be a great idea.
Fucking hippie.
 
Fucking hippie.
Close but no cigar. Happy fucking? Yeah, now you're talking ;)

Edit : ps on a serious note, wasn't it you that spoke of Trump supporters being moved by baser instincts? What if we call this the 'animal' within and in this example not in a derogatory sense? What if we then say there are roughly three way of being with this 1) to deny the animal 2) to react to the animal 3) to embrace yet move beyond the animal. Each of these will have their own way of listening. A question might then be - which of these states do Trump's base find to feel most empowering? A further question might then be - how best to respond to this...2, 3 o 1?

Maybe through this there can come to be a move from 'you are an animal therefore I judge you as subhuman and unworthy of any form of respect' to more 'Each has an animal within us and as this is accepted, we need not let this control us but we can move with it and eventually beyond it.'
 
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Aaaaaaannnnndddddd . . . Why I hate him (courtesy Daniel Dale):

In March, Trump said the Saudi military deals would produce 40,000 jobs.

A week ago, he made it 450,000 jobs.

Wednesday, 500,000 jobs.

Yesterday afternoon, 600,000 jobs.

Yesterday evening: "The million jobs."
 
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