Donald Trump

[west didsblue]

Roe v Wade will be overturned if Trump wins in 2020, and even if he doesn't, it may still be overturned anyway.

The US has gone past the point of no return imo. I think it is arguably now a failed state and it will get much worse before it gets better or fragments.

 

[Dax777]

Supreme Court Associate Justice Sotomayor has publicly and candidly called out the conservative majority on the Supreme Court for doing exactly what we said they would do: make decisions based on a bias and/or deference to the Trump administration’s wishes.

Although this is nothing surprising to most active in this thread — we all knew this was happening / will continue to happen — it is a quite an action for her to publicly call out her colleagues in this way. There are very few instances of this sort of open condemnation of fellow justices in the past and, when it has happened, it has been due to very concerning actions being taken by certain members of the court (some leading to impeachment of a justice).

By the way, the majority that decided to allow the implementation of the immigration “wealth test”, comprised of the conservative justices, over the injunctions enacted/upheld by two lower federal courts, didn’t even bother to formally explain the decision, which is also a new and dangerous precedent. They are now just deciding for and against some cases without formal documentation of the reasoning for the ruling, presumably so that dubious reasoning cannot be scrutinised and specifically challenged publicly.

This is exactly why many of us have said that you absolutely cannot expect them to check Trump’s action in the future, including any assertion of emergency powers.

Sonia Sotomayor Just Accused the Supreme Court’s Conservatives of Bias Toward the Trump Administration

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/sotomayor-trump-wealth-test-bias-dissent.html

Let me get this straight- the 5 Conservatives on the court are voting on a bias or deference to Trump, but the 4 liberals on the other hand are voting based on? Not their bias and contempt for the Trump Administration?

I mean, seriously how does it not occur to you that the liberals are doing the exact opposite. ( Assuming we take it at face value what you 'believe' the Conservatives are doing.

What would have been a better way to approach this (and I understand you didn't write the article) would have been for the writer (or subsequently you) to point out what the constitutional basis was for the original injuctions, what the the constitutional prescedent the 4 Liberal judges based their ruling to uphold on, and what constitutional basis the 5 'conservatives' based their strike down on.

And then we can judge whether both claims are meritorious or not. Or whether one is more so than the other. Rather, you just assumed without evidence that the opinion of Sotomomayer was infallible. That too is strange. Regardless of your predisposition to agree with her view.

But as far as 'bias' goes, a Supreme Court judge, Publicly 'calling out' her associates for taking a position opposed to hers and making unsubstantiated claims about their reasoning for so doing, strikes me as the true bias and politicizing.

That you don't see that is strange to me.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Let me get this straight- the 5 Conservatives on the court are voting on a bias or deference to Trump, but the 4 liberals on the other hand are voting based on? Not their bias and contempt for the Trump Administration?

I mean, seriously how does it not occur to you that the liberals are doing the exact opposite. ( Assuming we take it at face value what you 'believe' the Conservatives are doing.

What would have been a better way to approach this (and I understand you didn't write the article) would have been for the writer (or subsequently you) to point out what the constitutional basis was for the original injuctions, what the the constitutional prescedent the 4 Liberal judges based their ruling to uphold on, and what constitutional basis the 5 'conservatives' based their strike down on.

And then we can judge whether both claims are meritorious or not. Or whether one is more so than the other. Rather, you just assumed without evidence that the opinion of Sotomomayer was infallible. That too is strange. Regardless of your predisposition to agree with her view.

But as far as 'bias' goes, a Supreme Court judge, Publicly 'calling out' her associates for taking a position opposed to hers and making unsubstantiated claims about their reasoning for so doing, strikes me as the true bias and politicizing.

That you don't see that is strange to me.

Did you actually read the article or my post above the link to the article? Or research why she has called out the conservative majority of the court (which is not my responsibility to do for you)?

Because your post makes very little sense in response to my post, the info about the recent behaviour of the conservative majority of the court contained in the article (which has been to make decisions without providing explanation, which makes it difficult for anyone to determine the constitutional basis for them), or Sotomayor’s dissent (which you can read in full and details why what they are doing is novel and very problematic)...

Well, apart from just continually and subtly pushing Trump support, despite your feigned “objectivity” at various points in this thread.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

The US has gone past the point of no return imo. I think it is arguably now a failed state and it will get much worse before it gets better or fragments.

The vast majority of Americans don't see it that way though because they are living it on a daily basis. It's only when you take a step back and observe it from an outsiders perspective that you realise just how f*cked up America is, both politically and morally.

It's hard to put finger on when and how it went so wrong, but I don't think the Cold War ever truly ended, certainly for Russia. Putin has certainly played the long game and systematically sown discord between people on opposing ends of the political spectrum and disenfranchised large swathes of voters. That said, many American's need to have a long hard look at themselves because whilst at a personal level they claim to be inclusive and socially minded they are collectively insular and morally bankrupt.

 

[mat]

New intelligence chief used to work for a politician on the NSA security watch list.


That'll bode well for the country.

 

[buckshot]

New intelligence chief used to work for a politician on the NSA security watch list.


That'll bode well for the country.

All of Putin's appointees need to be approved by congress.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

 

[west didsblue]

Coronavirus and Stock Market in one tweet? Wtf

 

[SebastianBlue]

Coronavirus and Stock Market in one tweet? Wtf

He only cares about the stock market, as that is what he can use to claim the economy is doing well (to convince the idiots in his base that think the stock market = the economy and, primarily, to appease his business backers, who also only care about the stock market).

He only cares about anything so far as how it impacts his brand and influence. Any actual consequence of something, like the suffering and potential death of Americans, is completely meaningless except in that context.

He is simply trying to calm the markets so he doesn’t lose his chips for the poker game.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

He only cares about the stock market, as that is what he can use to claim the economy is doing well (to convince the idiots in his base that think the stock market = the economy and, primarily, to appease his business backers, who also only care about the stock market).

He only cares about anything so far as how it impacts his brand and influence. Any actual consequence of something, like the suffering and potential death of Americans, is completely meaningless except in that context.

He is simply trying to calm the markets so he doesn’t lose his chips for the poker game.

Next he'll hammer the Fed to lower rates again because people around the globe (especially in the "shithole" countries) are worried about Coronavirus, but while we here in America are effectively immune, the Fed should drive rates down to stimulate the economy locally to make up for the demand lost from overseas.