Donald Trump

It drives me mad hearing Trump voters say they like his policies.

He doesn't have policies. He has the vaguest suggestion of things he might do. And anything that sounds affirmative or a conviction will have been contradicted by the end of the day.

He likes Tarifs, anything from 0 to 200.

He wants to ban abortion, maybe, maybe not.

He wants to end inflation. No mention of the fact the FED are responsible for interest rates and potus has no control over the FED. No mention of how he will have any influence on inflation.

Mass deportation, sure. No mention of how, we know in Europe its significantly harder than you think it could be.

I could go on and on. In short, it's policies for people that don't know what a policy should look like.

So he has a mandate for nothing. Its a big mandate and full control over the government to deliver it. But he doesn't really have policies.
Of course.

He's a fundamentally bad guy. We know this factually.

If you voted for him, you rationaliz(s)ed that somehow -- doesn't matter how or why.

I will admit calling this a "moral failing" on the part of his voters is unfair. Calling them "stupid" is unfair too.

But I will say this:

Why would I trust your ability to make good decisions about other things after you rationali(z)sed picking Trump, for whatever reason?

I won't/don't.
 
Of course.

He's a fundamentally bad guy. We know this factually.

If you voted for him, you rationaliz(s)ed that somehow -- doesn't matter how or why.

I will admit calling this a "moral failing" on the part of his voters is unfair. Calling them "stupid" is unfair too.

But I will say this:

Why would I trust your ability to make good decisions about other things after you rationali(z)sed picking Trump, for whatever reason?

I won't/don't.
I think there is genuine rationale for calling Trump voters idiots. I know the Trump fans on here don't like it. But what else can you call it. He has no policies - yet they like his policies.

I think the reality for many is they don't like establishment politicians and voting for Yrump is the closest thing to kicking all politicians in the balls. Some of them are almost willing to acknowledge that is that case. They know Trump is one of the great arseholes of all time.

It's similar to Brexit, one of the stupidest decisions a country has ever made. Many who voted for it came to accept they made the wrong choice. But they got that kick in that one time. They stuck it to the man and enjoyed the fall out.
 
I think there is genuine rationale for calling Trump voters idiots. I know the Trump fans on here don't like it. But what else can you call it. He has no policies - yet they like his policies.

I think the reality for many is they don't like establishment politicians and voting for Yrump is the closest thing to kicking all politicians in the balls. Some of them are almost willing to acknowledge that is that case. They know Trump is one of the great arseholes of all time.

It's similar to Brexit, one of the stupidest decisions a country has ever made. Many who voted for it came to accept they made the wrong choice. But they got that kick in that one time. They stuck it to the man and enjoyed the fall out.
Yes. Hence my regular focus on this as a “revenge on all who’ve wronged us”, “own the libs” vote. But per some comments from others, it’s obviously more than that too. My fear is that folks who supported him never realiz(s)e — let alone admit — that they made a mistake. And then they make worse ones next time. And every time.
 
I’m more scared that morality/quality just doesn’t matter. It’s just “policies” — which he will utterly fail at implementing, but which will be excused away and ignored, just as his moral failings are. Which will then make moral failings irrelevant for all future candidates.
Thats just it. Pandoras box has been opened. He's apparently also refusing to sign the code of ethics which is supposedly a requirement for handover. But, he'll refuse, call their bluff and nothing will happen and he'll be in charge. There are no ethics anymore.
 
Yes. Hence my regular focus on this as a “revenge on all who’ve wronged us”, “own the libs” vote. But per some comments from others, it’s obviously more than that too. My fear is that folks who supported him never realiz(s)e — let alone admit — that they made a mistake. And then they make worse ones next time. And every time.
Was reading that lots of MAGA fans were all behind getting rid of Obamacare (purely because of the name) but didnt realise it was the same thing as the ACA that they're all getting benefit from. Now theyre panicking
 
Thats just it. Pandoras box has been opened. He's apparently also refusing to sign the code of ethics which is supposedly a requirement for handover. But, he'll refuse, call their bluff and nothing will happen and he'll be in charge. There are no ethics anymore.

I saw something about that - it means his transition team can't go to federal offices, they can't be briefed (he can), all those calls with foreign leaders are on private lines and have no records.

Also, standard protocol is for the FBI to vet appointees, but he's doing it through his own private investigators - I'm sure they'll be keen to tell him bad news.

It's completely crazy.
 
Was reading that lots of MAGA fans were all behind getting rid of Obamacare (purely because of the name) but didnt realise it was the same thing as the ACA that they're all getting benefit from. Now theyre panicking
This is where ut will all come to a crunch.

If he guts the education department ghen schools lose circa 20% of funding. Funding that is allocated to paying for lunches for poor kids (among other things). Is Musk going to front that up. How do fox cover one of the richest men in the world taking food of the plates of poor kids.

Same with the ACA. Keep calling it Obama care rightvup to the point you take away health care from millions of Americans, including veterans.

My gut feel is Trump will back down. He doesn't give a shit about balancing the budget. He will cut taxes and do nothing else. Just like last time. Maybe round up some token immigrants and hold them in a camp somewhere.
 
I am especially interested in what happens with US intelligence services. You would expect they know the risks involving the likes of Gabbard and Musk.

You would think the UK and other Five Eyes nations may be wary about what they share with the US.

If anyone has come across any interesting videos or in-depth articles about this, I would be interested.
 
It drives me mad hearing Trump voters say they like his policies.

He doesn't have policies. He has the vaguest suggestion of things he might do. And anything that sounds affirmative or a conviction will have been contradicted by the end of the day.

He likes Tarifs, anything from 0 to 200.

He wants to ban abortion, maybe, maybe not.

He wants to end inflation. No mention of the fact the FED are responsible for interest rates and potus has no control over the FED. No mention of how he will have any influence on inflation.

Mass deportation, sure. No mention of how, we know in Europe its significantly harder than you think it could be.

I could go on and on. In short, it's policies for people that don't know what a policy should look like.

So he has a mandate for nothing. Its a big mandate and full control over the government to deliver it. But he doesn't really have policies.
Let me summarize... Stupid people voted for Trump.



Did I miss anything :)

Carry on.
 
Of course.

He's a fundamentally bad guy. We know this factually.

If you voted for him, you rationaliz(s)ed that somehow -- doesn't matter how or why.

I will admit calling this a "moral failing" on the part of his voters is unfair. Calling them "stupid" is unfair too.

But I will say this:

Why would I trust your ability to make good decisions about other things after you rationali(z)sed picking Trump, for whatever reason?

I won't/don't.
Let me summarize

Let's not call them immoral. Let's not call them stupid.

But we know they are stupid and immoral.

Applause from the gallery*

Carry on.
 

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